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Why is the object placed in the middle of the sentence here?

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I saw this sentence :

孩子们丢的东西都找到了

Why is the object (丢的东西) placed between the subject and the verb here???

sentence-structure

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I saw this sentence :

孩子们丢的东西都找到了

Why is the object (丢的东西) placed between the subject and the verb here???

sentence-structure

share|improve this question

asked 11 hours ago

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  Graded readers are a good way to get a lot of experience breaking sentences down.
  
  – Ben Jackson
  6 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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I saw this sentence :

孩子们丢的东西都找到了

Why is the object (丢的东西) placed between the subject and the verb here???

sentence-structure

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asked 11 hours ago

AgnesAgnes

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孩子们丢的东西都找到了

• The object is "东西"




• 东西都(被)找到了 - things have all been found (被 omitted)




• 孩子们丢的 is an adjective phrase that describes the object

"things? what things?"

"Things that was lost by the kids" (孩子们丢的)

you can use 的 to turn any sentence into an adjective phrase

Example:

美国进口 - American import

美国进口的 - that is American imported

美国进口的牛肉 - beef that is American imported

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answered 11 hours ago

Tang HoTang Ho

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  Thank you! Anyway, I want to ask one more question :) why does the sentence use 到 instead of 着 as a resultative as a resultative complement here? This sentence appeared as an example sentence for resultative "着", but instead of using "着", it uses "到"...
  
  – Agnes
  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Agnes 着 is a verb particle that indicates the verb is in 'on going or continuous state'; 到 as a resultative complement indicates the verb is 'successfully carried out'
  
  – Tang Ho
  10 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  I think @Agnes is asking about zháo, not zhe. resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/…
  
  – Ben Jackson
  6 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  In this case 西都都找着了 and 东西都找到了 virtually mean the same --> "things have all been found". It is more common to use 找到 than 找着
  
  – Tang Ho
  30 mins ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

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An important question in Western Grammar is: In a passive sentence, is the subject the object?

I was injured.

Traditionally, 'I' is the subject of the verb 'was'. However, 'I' did nothing. 'I' was 'done to', by person or persons unknown. The one that is 'done to' is defined as the object. However, apart from 'I', there is no other thing mentioned here, so 'I' should be the 'subject'.
Also, the 'verb be' is not normally associated with any case except nominative case, the 'subject' case.

That aside, Chinese has no Relative Clauses. Chinese is conceptually simpler, more straightforward and more logical than, say, English.

Adjectives are not essential. They can be omitted.

东西都找到了。
The things have all been found.

If we render the Chinese directly: Things all found. (Is 'Things' subject or object? If 'Things' is not the subject, what is?)

孩子们丢的东西都找到了。

The things (which) the children lost have all been found. or

All the things (which) the children lost have been found.

If we render the Chinese directly:
'children lose' 的 things all found.

Except 'children lose' is not a suitable adjective in English, it will mess up the meaning, so it has to be put in a Relative Clause.

When you translate Chinese to English, any complex adjectival phrases will require a Relative Clause in English.

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The subject in the sentence "孩子们丢的东西找到了" is not "孩子们" but "东西"。

It translate to "That thing the kids lost has been found."

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answered 49 mins ago

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  'things' that was found should be the object, the subject is omitted (it doesn't mention who found those things )
  
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孩子们丢的东西都找到了

• The object is "东西"




• 东西都(被)找到了 - things have all been found (被 omitted)




• 孩子们丢的 is an adjective phrase that describes the object

"things? what things?"

"Things that was lost by the kids" (孩子们丢的)

you can use 的 to turn any sentence into an adjective phrase

Example:

美国进口 - American import

美国进口的 - that is American imported

美国进口的牛肉 - beef that is American imported

share|improve this answer

edited 10 hours ago

answered 11 hours ago

Tang HoTang Ho

30.2k1741

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thank you! Anyway, I want to ask one more question :) why does the sentence use 到 instead of 着 as a resultative as a resultative complement here? This sentence appeared as an example sentence for resultative "着", but instead of using "着", it uses "到"...
  
  – Agnes
  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Agnes 着 is a verb particle that indicates the verb is in 'on going or continuous state'; 到 as a resultative complement indicates the verb is 'successfully carried out'
  
  – Tang Ho
  10 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I think @Agnes is asking about zháo, not zhe. resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/…
  
  – Ben Jackson
  6 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  In this case 西都都找着了 and 东西都找到了 virtually mean the same --> "things have all been found". It is more common to use 找到 than 找着
  
  – Tang Ho
  30 mins ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

2

孩子们丢的东西都找到了

• The object is "东西"




• 东西都(被)找到了 - things have all been found (被 omitted)




• 孩子们丢的 is an adjective phrase that describes the object

"things? what things?"

"Things that was lost by the kids" (孩子们丢的)

you can use 的 to turn any sentence into an adjective phrase

Example:

美国进口 - American import

美国进口的 - that is American imported

美国进口的牛肉 - beef that is American imported

share|improve this answer

edited 10 hours ago

answered 11 hours ago

Tang HoTang Ho

30.2k1741

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thank you! Anyway, I want to ask one more question :) why does the sentence use 到 instead of 着 as a resultative as a resultative complement here? This sentence appeared as an example sentence for resultative "着", but instead of using "着", it uses "到"...
  
  – Agnes
  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Agnes 着 is a verb particle that indicates the verb is in 'on going or continuous state'; 到 as a resultative complement indicates the verb is 'successfully carried out'
  
  – Tang Ho
  10 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I think @Agnes is asking about zháo, not zhe. resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/…
  
  – Ben Jackson
  6 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  In this case 西都都找着了 and 东西都找到了 virtually mean the same --> "things have all been found". It is more common to use 找到 than 找着
  
  – Tang Ho
  30 mins ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

孩子们丢的东西都找到了

• The object is "东西"




• 东西都(被)找到了 - things have all been found (被 omitted)




• 孩子们丢的 is an adjective phrase that describes the object

"things? what things?"

"Things that was lost by the kids" (孩子们丢的)

you can use 的 to turn any sentence into an adjective phrase

Example:

美国进口 - American import

美国进口的 - that is American imported

美国进口的牛肉 - beef that is American imported

share|improve this answer

edited 10 hours ago

answered 11 hours ago

Tang HoTang Ho

30.2k1741

share|improve this answer

edited 10 hours ago

answered 11 hours ago

Tang HoTang Ho

30.2k1741

answered 11 hours ago

Tang HoTang Ho

30.2k1741

answered 11 hours ago

Tang HoTang Ho

30.2k1741

1

An important question in Western Grammar is: In a passive sentence, is the subject the object?

I was injured.

Traditionally, 'I' is the subject of the verb 'was'. However, 'I' did nothing. 'I' was 'done to', by person or persons unknown. The one that is 'done to' is defined as the object. However, apart from 'I', there is no other thing mentioned here, so 'I' should be the 'subject'.
Also, the 'verb be' is not normally associated with any case except nominative case, the 'subject' case.

That aside, Chinese has no Relative Clauses. Chinese is conceptually simpler, more straightforward and more logical than, say, English.

Adjectives are not essential. They can be omitted.

东西都找到了。
The things have all been found.

If we render the Chinese directly: Things all found. (Is 'Things' subject or object? If 'Things' is not the subject, what is?)

孩子们丢的东西都找到了。

The things (which) the children lost have all been found. or

All the things (which) the children lost have been found.

If we render the Chinese directly:
'children lose' 的 things all found.

Except 'children lose' is not a suitable adjective in English, it will mess up the meaning, so it has to be put in a Relative Clause.

When you translate Chinese to English, any complex adjectival phrases will require a Relative Clause in English.

share|improve this answer

answered 2 hours ago

PedroskiPedroski

5,4352816

add a comment | 

1

An important question in Western Grammar is: In a passive sentence, is the subject the object?

I was injured.

Traditionally, 'I' is the subject of the verb 'was'. However, 'I' did nothing. 'I' was 'done to', by person or persons unknown. The one that is 'done to' is defined as the object. However, apart from 'I', there is no other thing mentioned here, so 'I' should be the 'subject'.
Also, the 'verb be' is not normally associated with any case except nominative case, the 'subject' case.

That aside, Chinese has no Relative Clauses. Chinese is conceptually simpler, more straightforward and more logical than, say, English.

Adjectives are not essential. They can be omitted.

东西都找到了。
The things have all been found.

If we render the Chinese directly: Things all found. (Is 'Things' subject or object? If 'Things' is not the subject, what is?)

孩子们丢的东西都找到了。

The things (which) the children lost have all been found. or

All the things (which) the children lost have been found.

If we render the Chinese directly:
'children lose' 的 things all found.

Except 'children lose' is not a suitable adjective in English, it will mess up the meaning, so it has to be put in a Relative Clause.

When you translate Chinese to English, any complex adjectival phrases will require a Relative Clause in English.

share|improve this answer

answered 2 hours ago

PedroskiPedroski

5,4352816

add a comment | 

An important question in Western Grammar is: In a passive sentence, is the subject the object?

I was injured.

Traditionally, 'I' is the subject of the verb 'was'. However, 'I' did nothing. 'I' was 'done to', by person or persons unknown. The one that is 'done to' is defined as the object. However, apart from 'I', there is no other thing mentioned here, so 'I' should be the 'subject'.
Also, the 'verb be' is not normally associated with any case except nominative case, the 'subject' case.

That aside, Chinese has no Relative Clauses. Chinese is conceptually simpler, more straightforward and more logical than, say, English.

Adjectives are not essential. They can be omitted.

东西都找到了。
The things have all been found.

If we render the Chinese directly: Things all found. (Is 'Things' subject or object? If 'Things' is not the subject, what is?)

孩子们丢的东西都找到了。

The things (which) the children lost have all been found. or

All the things (which) the children lost have been found.

If we render the Chinese directly:
'children lose' 的 things all found.

Except 'children lose' is not a suitable adjective in English, it will mess up the meaning, so it has to be put in a Relative Clause.

When you translate Chinese to English, any complex adjectival phrases will require a Relative Clause in English.

share|improve this answer

answered 2 hours ago

PedroskiPedroski

5,4352816

share|improve this answer

answered 2 hours ago

PedroskiPedroski

5,4352816

answered 2 hours ago

PedroskiPedroski

5,4352816

answered 2 hours ago

PedroskiPedroski

5,4352816

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The subject in the sentence "孩子们丢的东西找到了" is not "孩子们" but "东西"。

It translate to "That thing the kids lost has been found."

share|improve this answer

edited 26 mins ago

Tang Ho

30.2k1741

answered 49 mins ago

John Z. LiJohn Z. Li

1393

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  'things' that was found should be the object, the subject is omitted (it doesn't mention who found those things )
  
  – Tang Ho
  24 mins ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

1

The subject in the sentence "孩子们丢的东西找到了" is not "孩子们" but "东西"。

It translate to "That thing the kids lost has been found."

share|improve this answer

edited 26 mins ago

Tang Ho

30.2k1741

answered 49 mins ago

John Z. LiJohn Z. Li

1393

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  'things' that was found should be the object, the subject is omitted (it doesn't mention who found those things )
  
  – Tang Ho
  24 mins ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

The subject in the sentence "孩子们丢的东西找到了" is not "孩子们" but "东西"。

It translate to "That thing the kids lost has been found."

share|improve this answer

edited 26 mins ago

Tang Ho

30.2k1741

answered 49 mins ago

John Z. LiJohn Z. Li

1393

share|improve this answer

edited 26 mins ago

Tang Ho

30.2k1741

answered 49 mins ago

John Z. LiJohn Z. Li

1393

edited 26 mins ago

Tang Ho

30.2k1741

edited 26 mins ago

Tang Ho

30.2k1741

answered 49 mins ago

John Z. LiJohn Z. Li

1393

answered 49 mins ago

John Z. LiJohn Z. Li

1393