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I graduated last year from a master's course where I was fortunate enough to top the cohort. However I was told this in confidence by one of my referees to a PhD programme, and they informed me that under no circumstances was I to put this on academic applications, as it would be against 'department guidelines'.



I also tried to enquire with the department directly concerning class rankings, but as expected they were unwilling to reveal this information to me.



I'm now considering applying for a job in the 'real world', and believe that the class ranking would be a good thing for my CV. However I really ought not to know this fact, as it was revealed to me in confidence by my referee, and I risk jeopardising my relationship with him if the department found out.



Am I overthinking this, and should I just put it down, or is there a way to resolve this in a less risky way?










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  • Does your transcript say anything about class rank?

    – Jon Custer
    2 hours ago











  • I can not speak for others, but your "class rank" means nothing to me. The lowest ranked student out of a highly selective program is more impressive than the top ranked student out of a very poor program.

    – emory
    1 hour ago













  • You already knew that you could get in trouble with your department. Solar Mike has explained how you could also get in trouble with prospective employers ho try to verify what's in your CV. I'll add that you could get into trouble with everyone who finds out what happened. You'll be known as that untrustworthy person who shouldn't be told anything in confidence.

    – Andreas Blass
    20 mins ago
















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I graduated last year from a master's course where I was fortunate enough to top the cohort. However I was told this in confidence by one of my referees to a PhD programme, and they informed me that under no circumstances was I to put this on academic applications, as it would be against 'department guidelines'.



I also tried to enquire with the department directly concerning class rankings, but as expected they were unwilling to reveal this information to me.



I'm now considering applying for a job in the 'real world', and believe that the class ranking would be a good thing for my CV. However I really ought not to know this fact, as it was revealed to me in confidence by my referee, and I risk jeopardising my relationship with him if the department found out.



Am I overthinking this, and should I just put it down, or is there a way to resolve this in a less risky way?










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  • Does your transcript say anything about class rank?

    – Jon Custer
    2 hours ago











  • I can not speak for others, but your "class rank" means nothing to me. The lowest ranked student out of a highly selective program is more impressive than the top ranked student out of a very poor program.

    – emory
    1 hour ago













  • You already knew that you could get in trouble with your department. Solar Mike has explained how you could also get in trouble with prospective employers ho try to verify what's in your CV. I'll add that you could get into trouble with everyone who finds out what happened. You'll be known as that untrustworthy person who shouldn't be told anything in confidence.

    – Andreas Blass
    20 mins ago














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I graduated last year from a master's course where I was fortunate enough to top the cohort. However I was told this in confidence by one of my referees to a PhD programme, and they informed me that under no circumstances was I to put this on academic applications, as it would be against 'department guidelines'.



I also tried to enquire with the department directly concerning class rankings, but as expected they were unwilling to reveal this information to me.



I'm now considering applying for a job in the 'real world', and believe that the class ranking would be a good thing for my CV. However I really ought not to know this fact, as it was revealed to me in confidence by my referee, and I risk jeopardising my relationship with him if the department found out.



Am I overthinking this, and should I just put it down, or is there a way to resolve this in a less risky way?










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I graduated last year from a master's course where I was fortunate enough to top the cohort. However I was told this in confidence by one of my referees to a PhD programme, and they informed me that under no circumstances was I to put this on academic applications, as it would be against 'department guidelines'.



I also tried to enquire with the department directly concerning class rankings, but as expected they were unwilling to reveal this information to me.



I'm now considering applying for a job in the 'real world', and believe that the class ranking would be a good thing for my CV. However I really ought not to know this fact, as it was revealed to me in confidence by my referee, and I risk jeopardising my relationship with him if the department found out.



Am I overthinking this, and should I just put it down, or is there a way to resolve this in a less risky way?







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  • Does your transcript say anything about class rank?

    – Jon Custer
    2 hours ago











  • I can not speak for others, but your "class rank" means nothing to me. The lowest ranked student out of a highly selective program is more impressive than the top ranked student out of a very poor program.

    – emory
    1 hour ago













  • You already knew that you could get in trouble with your department. Solar Mike has explained how you could also get in trouble with prospective employers ho try to verify what's in your CV. I'll add that you could get into trouble with everyone who finds out what happened. You'll be known as that untrustworthy person who shouldn't be told anything in confidence.

    – Andreas Blass
    20 mins ago



















  • Does your transcript say anything about class rank?

    – Jon Custer
    2 hours ago











  • I can not speak for others, but your "class rank" means nothing to me. The lowest ranked student out of a highly selective program is more impressive than the top ranked student out of a very poor program.

    – emory
    1 hour ago













  • You already knew that you could get in trouble with your department. Solar Mike has explained how you could also get in trouble with prospective employers ho try to verify what's in your CV. I'll add that you could get into trouble with everyone who finds out what happened. You'll be known as that untrustworthy person who shouldn't be told anything in confidence.

    – Andreas Blass
    20 mins ago

















Does your transcript say anything about class rank?

– Jon Custer
2 hours ago





Does your transcript say anything about class rank?

– Jon Custer
2 hours ago













I can not speak for others, but your "class rank" means nothing to me. The lowest ranked student out of a highly selective program is more impressive than the top ranked student out of a very poor program.

– emory
1 hour ago







I can not speak for others, but your "class rank" means nothing to me. The lowest ranked student out of a highly selective program is more impressive than the top ranked student out of a very poor program.

– emory
1 hour ago















You already knew that you could get in trouble with your department. Solar Mike has explained how you could also get in trouble with prospective employers ho try to verify what's in your CV. I'll add that you could get into trouble with everyone who finds out what happened. You'll be known as that untrustworthy person who shouldn't be told anything in confidence.

– Andreas Blass
20 mins ago





You already knew that you could get in trouble with your department. Solar Mike has explained how you could also get in trouble with prospective employers ho try to verify what's in your CV. I'll add that you could get into trouble with everyone who finds out what happened. You'll be known as that untrustworthy person who shouldn't be told anything in confidence.

– Andreas Blass
20 mins ago










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So, you put it on your CV, the future employer does what employers do and phones the institution to check details of awards, years etc.



BOOM - the institution does not confirm you were "top of the class" as that is just not done.



Now the future employer is confused - what else may be wrong on your CV AND your referee is pissed at you as well.



Do you really want to go there?






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    So, you put it on your CV, the future employer does what employers do and phones the institution to check details of awards, years etc.



    BOOM - the institution does not confirm you were "top of the class" as that is just not done.



    Now the future employer is confused - what else may be wrong on your CV AND your referee is pissed at you as well.



    Do you really want to go there?






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      So, you put it on your CV, the future employer does what employers do and phones the institution to check details of awards, years etc.



      BOOM - the institution does not confirm you were "top of the class" as that is just not done.



      Now the future employer is confused - what else may be wrong on your CV AND your referee is pissed at you as well.



      Do you really want to go there?






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        So, you put it on your CV, the future employer does what employers do and phones the institution to check details of awards, years etc.



        BOOM - the institution does not confirm you were "top of the class" as that is just not done.



        Now the future employer is confused - what else may be wrong on your CV AND your referee is pissed at you as well.



        Do you really want to go there?






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        So, you put it on your CV, the future employer does what employers do and phones the institution to check details of awards, years etc.



        BOOM - the institution does not confirm you were "top of the class" as that is just not done.



        Now the future employer is confused - what else may be wrong on your CV AND your referee is pissed at you as well.



        Do you really want to go there?







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