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First off, apologies if this has a duplicate anywhere, I looked but couldn't find anything that mirrored the situation I'm in.



I'm a recent engineering grad, who just started up full-time at a company that I interned at during my time in university. I spent a year and a half at the company during my internships (cumulatively), and I've been a full-time employee for about 5 months now. I find my work fulfilling and interesting, I get along fantastically with my coworkers, and the office culture is a very good fit with me, however the situation drastically changed about a two months after I was hired back on. Long story short, the company has gotten itself into cash-flow trouble, and has suspended all expenditures except for those that are absolutely necessary (payroll, orders needed to fulfill immediate contracts, etc). Due to this, I am essentially unable to do my job. A large portion of the work I do requires that components and materials are purchased on a regular basis, and this has ground most of my ongoing projects to a complete standstill. The higher-ups say that they are on track to be through the difficult period by June/July, but I'm not entirely sure I believe that this will be the case.



I have tried being proactive, and finding my own work to do, but the lab can only be reorganized so many times. I have tried asking my colleagues if I can assist them with anything, but this usually only nets me a few hours of work, and the tasks are usually not engineering work, but grunt work that is not even tangentially related to my field. I have tried talking to my superiors, but there is not usually much they can do for me, as their hands are just as tied by the financial mess as mine are. At this point, my job involves coming in in the morning, twiddling my thumbs for most of the day, and if I'm lucky one of the senior engineers will delegate a small, usually trivial task to me.



I am heavily considering leaving, but I'm concerned that this 5 month stint on my resume will come off as suspicious when applying to new positions. Furthermore, part of me feels that if I truthfully answer why I left, I will be seen as disloyal. However, my current situation is far from ideal. Especially as a new grad, I feel that I'm wasting my time (and the company's money to be quite frank), and missing opportunities to grow my career and gain real work experience.



What would you do in this situation? I know it's normal for most employees to have downtime, but this seems excessive. Is leaving a good career move at this point? Or should I wait until I've "put my time in" so to speak?










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    Possible duplicate of Can I disclose my company's financial troubles when applying for new jobs (UK)?

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First off, apologies if this has a duplicate anywhere, I looked but couldn't find anything that mirrored the situation I'm in.



I'm a recent engineering grad, who just started up full-time at a company that I interned at during my time in university. I spent a year and a half at the company during my internships (cumulatively), and I've been a full-time employee for about 5 months now. I find my work fulfilling and interesting, I get along fantastically with my coworkers, and the office culture is a very good fit with me, however the situation drastically changed about a two months after I was hired back on. Long story short, the company has gotten itself into cash-flow trouble, and has suspended all expenditures except for those that are absolutely necessary (payroll, orders needed to fulfill immediate contracts, etc). Due to this, I am essentially unable to do my job. A large portion of the work I do requires that components and materials are purchased on a regular basis, and this has ground most of my ongoing projects to a complete standstill. The higher-ups say that they are on track to be through the difficult period by June/July, but I'm not entirely sure I believe that this will be the case.



I have tried being proactive, and finding my own work to do, but the lab can only be reorganized so many times. I have tried asking my colleagues if I can assist them with anything, but this usually only nets me a few hours of work, and the tasks are usually not engineering work, but grunt work that is not even tangentially related to my field. I have tried talking to my superiors, but there is not usually much they can do for me, as their hands are just as tied by the financial mess as mine are. At this point, my job involves coming in in the morning, twiddling my thumbs for most of the day, and if I'm lucky one of the senior engineers will delegate a small, usually trivial task to me.



I am heavily considering leaving, but I'm concerned that this 5 month stint on my resume will come off as suspicious when applying to new positions. Furthermore, part of me feels that if I truthfully answer why I left, I will be seen as disloyal. However, my current situation is far from ideal. Especially as a new grad, I feel that I'm wasting my time (and the company's money to be quite frank), and missing opportunities to grow my career and gain real work experience.



What would you do in this situation? I know it's normal for most employees to have downtime, but this seems excessive. Is leaving a good career move at this point? Or should I wait until I've "put my time in" so to speak?










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    Possible duplicate of Can I disclose my company's financial troubles when applying for new jobs (UK)?

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First off, apologies if this has a duplicate anywhere, I looked but couldn't find anything that mirrored the situation I'm in.



I'm a recent engineering grad, who just started up full-time at a company that I interned at during my time in university. I spent a year and a half at the company during my internships (cumulatively), and I've been a full-time employee for about 5 months now. I find my work fulfilling and interesting, I get along fantastically with my coworkers, and the office culture is a very good fit with me, however the situation drastically changed about a two months after I was hired back on. Long story short, the company has gotten itself into cash-flow trouble, and has suspended all expenditures except for those that are absolutely necessary (payroll, orders needed to fulfill immediate contracts, etc). Due to this, I am essentially unable to do my job. A large portion of the work I do requires that components and materials are purchased on a regular basis, and this has ground most of my ongoing projects to a complete standstill. The higher-ups say that they are on track to be through the difficult period by June/July, but I'm not entirely sure I believe that this will be the case.



I have tried being proactive, and finding my own work to do, but the lab can only be reorganized so many times. I have tried asking my colleagues if I can assist them with anything, but this usually only nets me a few hours of work, and the tasks are usually not engineering work, but grunt work that is not even tangentially related to my field. I have tried talking to my superiors, but there is not usually much they can do for me, as their hands are just as tied by the financial mess as mine are. At this point, my job involves coming in in the morning, twiddling my thumbs for most of the day, and if I'm lucky one of the senior engineers will delegate a small, usually trivial task to me.



I am heavily considering leaving, but I'm concerned that this 5 month stint on my resume will come off as suspicious when applying to new positions. Furthermore, part of me feels that if I truthfully answer why I left, I will be seen as disloyal. However, my current situation is far from ideal. Especially as a new grad, I feel that I'm wasting my time (and the company's money to be quite frank), and missing opportunities to grow my career and gain real work experience.



What would you do in this situation? I know it's normal for most employees to have downtime, but this seems excessive. Is leaving a good career move at this point? Or should I wait until I've "put my time in" so to speak?










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First off, apologies if this has a duplicate anywhere, I looked but couldn't find anything that mirrored the situation I'm in.



I'm a recent engineering grad, who just started up full-time at a company that I interned at during my time in university. I spent a year and a half at the company during my internships (cumulatively), and I've been a full-time employee for about 5 months now. I find my work fulfilling and interesting, I get along fantastically with my coworkers, and the office culture is a very good fit with me, however the situation drastically changed about a two months after I was hired back on. Long story short, the company has gotten itself into cash-flow trouble, and has suspended all expenditures except for those that are absolutely necessary (payroll, orders needed to fulfill immediate contracts, etc). Due to this, I am essentially unable to do my job. A large portion of the work I do requires that components and materials are purchased on a regular basis, and this has ground most of my ongoing projects to a complete standstill. The higher-ups say that they are on track to be through the difficult period by June/July, but I'm not entirely sure I believe that this will be the case.



I have tried being proactive, and finding my own work to do, but the lab can only be reorganized so many times. I have tried asking my colleagues if I can assist them with anything, but this usually only nets me a few hours of work, and the tasks are usually not engineering work, but grunt work that is not even tangentially related to my field. I have tried talking to my superiors, but there is not usually much they can do for me, as their hands are just as tied by the financial mess as mine are. At this point, my job involves coming in in the morning, twiddling my thumbs for most of the day, and if I'm lucky one of the senior engineers will delegate a small, usually trivial task to me.



I am heavily considering leaving, but I'm concerned that this 5 month stint on my resume will come off as suspicious when applying to new positions. Furthermore, part of me feels that if I truthfully answer why I left, I will be seen as disloyal. However, my current situation is far from ideal. Especially as a new grad, I feel that I'm wasting my time (and the company's money to be quite frank), and missing opportunities to grow my career and gain real work experience.



What would you do in this situation? I know it's normal for most employees to have downtime, but this seems excessive. Is leaving a good career move at this point? Or should I wait until I've "put my time in" so to speak?







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    Possible duplicate of Can I disclose my company's financial troubles when applying for new jobs (UK)?

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Long story short, the company has gotten itself into cash-flow trouble...




Leave immediately: before you finish reading this sentence.




  1. You are wasting perhaps the most critical part of your career. Literally every hour spent there is a black mark.


  2. Regarding your astute question "Will it look bad on my resume" - not at all. Indeed you must leave a collapsing company. What will look bad is if you stayed until the "last moment" at a dumpster fire. It's a "career killer" if you "hung on until the end" at somewhere which (at that time in the future) everyone knows collapsed.



Walk out now. Give them a polite leaving notice and go. They'll be pleased to save your salary.



You could play a dangerous game and "hope" the company comes good. But why play poker with a career?



Good luck in your next role!





Just to repeat:



It's actually a bad look to stay at a dumpster fire more than a short time. Every passing week it's more "strange" that you hang around. Don't forget in the future when "everyone knows" it was a dumpster fire, that future is when people will be looking at your resume. Run don't walk.






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    I wouldn't necessarily walk out now, but I sure would be looking with gusto.

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  • @user42620 has a point. It's easiest to find a job when you already have one.

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Why do people think that perfectly ordinary circumstances will seem "suspicious"? Companies fail every day. Explain the situation simply and honestly.



There's nothing disloyal about getting off of a sinking ship. This situation is none of your doing. If a potential employer sees your leaving as suspicious or disloyal then you probably don't want to work there, because it speaks to a culture of fear and blame. A reasonable person would see and understand the merit of your desire to find stable employment.






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    Between your internships and the 5 months as a full-time employee you've really been with this company for almost 2 years. I don't think you would be seen as disloyal by your higher-ups at this company.



    It might look suspicious on your resume, but if an interviewer is concerned he will ask you about your time there in which case you can mention you interned there and things slowed down and you wanted more growth in your early career.



    It's important to remain happy in your career and seek development so it is completely understandable you would want to make a change. But as you've stated, you find the work interesting and fulfilling which is really important (in my opinion) to have an enjoyable career. So with that said, I would recommend sticking it out to see if things really do get better by June/July like your higher-ups claim. If they do get better, stay with the company. If not, seek other opportunities.






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      Moreover, the company appears to be collapsing. So it will be quite obvious and normal that the OP left.

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    Long story short, the company has gotten itself into cash-flow trouble...




    Leave immediately: before you finish reading this sentence.




    1. You are wasting perhaps the most critical part of your career. Literally every hour spent there is a black mark.


    2. Regarding your astute question "Will it look bad on my resume" - not at all. Indeed you must leave a collapsing company. What will look bad is if you stayed until the "last moment" at a dumpster fire. It's a "career killer" if you "hung on until the end" at somewhere which (at that time in the future) everyone knows collapsed.



    Walk out now. Give them a polite leaving notice and go. They'll be pleased to save your salary.



    You could play a dangerous game and "hope" the company comes good. But why play poker with a career?



    Good luck in your next role!





    Just to repeat:



    It's actually a bad look to stay at a dumpster fire more than a short time. Every passing week it's more "strange" that you hang around. Don't forget in the future when "everyone knows" it was a dumpster fire, that future is when people will be looking at your resume. Run don't walk.






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      I wouldn't necessarily walk out now, but I sure would be looking with gusto.

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    • @user42620 has a point. It's easiest to find a job when you already have one.

      – Malisbad
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    Long story short, the company has gotten itself into cash-flow trouble...




    Leave immediately: before you finish reading this sentence.




    1. You are wasting perhaps the most critical part of your career. Literally every hour spent there is a black mark.


    2. Regarding your astute question "Will it look bad on my resume" - not at all. Indeed you must leave a collapsing company. What will look bad is if you stayed until the "last moment" at a dumpster fire. It's a "career killer" if you "hung on until the end" at somewhere which (at that time in the future) everyone knows collapsed.



    Walk out now. Give them a polite leaving notice and go. They'll be pleased to save your salary.



    You could play a dangerous game and "hope" the company comes good. But why play poker with a career?



    Good luck in your next role!





    Just to repeat:



    It's actually a bad look to stay at a dumpster fire more than a short time. Every passing week it's more "strange" that you hang around. Don't forget in the future when "everyone knows" it was a dumpster fire, that future is when people will be looking at your resume. Run don't walk.






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      I wouldn't necessarily walk out now, but I sure would be looking with gusto.

      – user42620
      3 hours ago











    • @user42620 has a point. It's easiest to find a job when you already have one.

      – Malisbad
      40 mins ago














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    Long story short, the company has gotten itself into cash-flow trouble...




    Leave immediately: before you finish reading this sentence.




    1. You are wasting perhaps the most critical part of your career. Literally every hour spent there is a black mark.


    2. Regarding your astute question "Will it look bad on my resume" - not at all. Indeed you must leave a collapsing company. What will look bad is if you stayed until the "last moment" at a dumpster fire. It's a "career killer" if you "hung on until the end" at somewhere which (at that time in the future) everyone knows collapsed.



    Walk out now. Give them a polite leaving notice and go. They'll be pleased to save your salary.



    You could play a dangerous game and "hope" the company comes good. But why play poker with a career?



    Good luck in your next role!





    Just to repeat:



    It's actually a bad look to stay at a dumpster fire more than a short time. Every passing week it's more "strange" that you hang around. Don't forget in the future when "everyone knows" it was a dumpster fire, that future is when people will be looking at your resume. Run don't walk.






    share|improve this answer
















    Long story short, the company has gotten itself into cash-flow trouble...




    Leave immediately: before you finish reading this sentence.




    1. You are wasting perhaps the most critical part of your career. Literally every hour spent there is a black mark.


    2. Regarding your astute question "Will it look bad on my resume" - not at all. Indeed you must leave a collapsing company. What will look bad is if you stayed until the "last moment" at a dumpster fire. It's a "career killer" if you "hung on until the end" at somewhere which (at that time in the future) everyone knows collapsed.



    Walk out now. Give them a polite leaving notice and go. They'll be pleased to save your salary.



    You could play a dangerous game and "hope" the company comes good. But why play poker with a career?



    Good luck in your next role!





    Just to repeat:



    It's actually a bad look to stay at a dumpster fire more than a short time. Every passing week it's more "strange" that you hang around. Don't forget in the future when "everyone knows" it was a dumpster fire, that future is when people will be looking at your resume. Run don't walk.







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      I wouldn't necessarily walk out now, but I sure would be looking with gusto.

      – user42620
      3 hours ago











    • @user42620 has a point. It's easiest to find a job when you already have one.

      – Malisbad
      40 mins ago














    • 3





      I wouldn't necessarily walk out now, but I sure would be looking with gusto.

      – user42620
      3 hours ago











    • @user42620 has a point. It's easiest to find a job when you already have one.

      – Malisbad
      40 mins ago








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    I wouldn't necessarily walk out now, but I sure would be looking with gusto.

    – user42620
    3 hours ago





    I wouldn't necessarily walk out now, but I sure would be looking with gusto.

    – user42620
    3 hours ago













    @user42620 has a point. It's easiest to find a job when you already have one.

    – Malisbad
    40 mins ago





    @user42620 has a point. It's easiest to find a job when you already have one.

    – Malisbad
    40 mins ago













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    Why do people think that perfectly ordinary circumstances will seem "suspicious"? Companies fail every day. Explain the situation simply and honestly.



    There's nothing disloyal about getting off of a sinking ship. This situation is none of your doing. If a potential employer sees your leaving as suspicious or disloyal then you probably don't want to work there, because it speaks to a culture of fear and blame. A reasonable person would see and understand the merit of your desire to find stable employment.






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      Why do people think that perfectly ordinary circumstances will seem "suspicious"? Companies fail every day. Explain the situation simply and honestly.



      There's nothing disloyal about getting off of a sinking ship. This situation is none of your doing. If a potential employer sees your leaving as suspicious or disloyal then you probably don't want to work there, because it speaks to a culture of fear and blame. A reasonable person would see and understand the merit of your desire to find stable employment.






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        Why do people think that perfectly ordinary circumstances will seem "suspicious"? Companies fail every day. Explain the situation simply and honestly.



        There's nothing disloyal about getting off of a sinking ship. This situation is none of your doing. If a potential employer sees your leaving as suspicious or disloyal then you probably don't want to work there, because it speaks to a culture of fear and blame. A reasonable person would see and understand the merit of your desire to find stable employment.






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        Why do people think that perfectly ordinary circumstances will seem "suspicious"? Companies fail every day. Explain the situation simply and honestly.



        There's nothing disloyal about getting off of a sinking ship. This situation is none of your doing. If a potential employer sees your leaving as suspicious or disloyal then you probably don't want to work there, because it speaks to a culture of fear and blame. A reasonable person would see and understand the merit of your desire to find stable employment.







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            Between your internships and the 5 months as a full-time employee you've really been with this company for almost 2 years. I don't think you would be seen as disloyal by your higher-ups at this company.



            It might look suspicious on your resume, but if an interviewer is concerned he will ask you about your time there in which case you can mention you interned there and things slowed down and you wanted more growth in your early career.



            It's important to remain happy in your career and seek development so it is completely understandable you would want to make a change. But as you've stated, you find the work interesting and fulfilling which is really important (in my opinion) to have an enjoyable career. So with that said, I would recommend sticking it out to see if things really do get better by June/July like your higher-ups claim. If they do get better, stay with the company. If not, seek other opportunities.






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              Moreover, the company appears to be collapsing. So it will be quite obvious and normal that the OP left.

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            Between your internships and the 5 months as a full-time employee you've really been with this company for almost 2 years. I don't think you would be seen as disloyal by your higher-ups at this company.



            It might look suspicious on your resume, but if an interviewer is concerned he will ask you about your time there in which case you can mention you interned there and things slowed down and you wanted more growth in your early career.



            It's important to remain happy in your career and seek development so it is completely understandable you would want to make a change. But as you've stated, you find the work interesting and fulfilling which is really important (in my opinion) to have an enjoyable career. So with that said, I would recommend sticking it out to see if things really do get better by June/July like your higher-ups claim. If they do get better, stay with the company. If not, seek other opportunities.






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              Moreover, the company appears to be collapsing. So it will be quite obvious and normal that the OP left.

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            Between your internships and the 5 months as a full-time employee you've really been with this company for almost 2 years. I don't think you would be seen as disloyal by your higher-ups at this company.



            It might look suspicious on your resume, but if an interviewer is concerned he will ask you about your time there in which case you can mention you interned there and things slowed down and you wanted more growth in your early career.



            It's important to remain happy in your career and seek development so it is completely understandable you would want to make a change. But as you've stated, you find the work interesting and fulfilling which is really important (in my opinion) to have an enjoyable career. So with that said, I would recommend sticking it out to see if things really do get better by June/July like your higher-ups claim. If they do get better, stay with the company. If not, seek other opportunities.






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            Between your internships and the 5 months as a full-time employee you've really been with this company for almost 2 years. I don't think you would be seen as disloyal by your higher-ups at this company.



            It might look suspicious on your resume, but if an interviewer is concerned he will ask you about your time there in which case you can mention you interned there and things slowed down and you wanted more growth in your early career.



            It's important to remain happy in your career and seek development so it is completely understandable you would want to make a change. But as you've stated, you find the work interesting and fulfilling which is really important (in my opinion) to have an enjoyable career. So with that said, I would recommend sticking it out to see if things really do get better by June/July like your higher-ups claim. If they do get better, stay with the company. If not, seek other opportunities.







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              Moreover, the company appears to be collapsing. So it will be quite obvious and normal that the OP left.

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