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A beta reader of sorts (cousin) mentioned he thought my MC2 rather brutal in her capture of MC1 - though justified.



I have her dupe him into surrendering (believing himself outnumbered and outgunned). Once he does surrender, she does the following:




  • searches him

  • disarms him

  • handcuffs him

  • binds his elbows to prevent escape

  • rigs a chokehold out of a dog leash

  • threatens him with a hunting knife

  • holds him at gun point

  • threatens to geld him (psychological tactic only)


She is successful in convincing him that any unsanctioned movement is a bad idea. She uses these tactics because she is smaller than he is and she would lose in a fight. She cannot allow him, at that moment, to consider resisting.



Has she crossed the line between using justified force to bring in a dangerous prisoner and brutality?



It occurs in Bolivia shortly after an assassination.










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    Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.

    – Arkenstein XII
    1 hour ago











  • Is she highly trained at apprehending prisoners? (It sounds like she is, but I'd like to hear it explicitly)

    – bruglesco
    59 mins ago











  • Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.

    – Rasdashan
    57 mins ago
















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A beta reader of sorts (cousin) mentioned he thought my MC2 rather brutal in her capture of MC1 - though justified.



I have her dupe him into surrendering (believing himself outnumbered and outgunned). Once he does surrender, she does the following:




  • searches him

  • disarms him

  • handcuffs him

  • binds his elbows to prevent escape

  • rigs a chokehold out of a dog leash

  • threatens him with a hunting knife

  • holds him at gun point

  • threatens to geld him (psychological tactic only)


She is successful in convincing him that any unsanctioned movement is a bad idea. She uses these tactics because she is smaller than he is and she would lose in a fight. She cannot allow him, at that moment, to consider resisting.



Has she crossed the line between using justified force to bring in a dangerous prisoner and brutality?



It occurs in Bolivia shortly after an assassination.










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    Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.

    – Arkenstein XII
    1 hour ago











  • Is she highly trained at apprehending prisoners? (It sounds like she is, but I'd like to hear it explicitly)

    – bruglesco
    59 mins ago











  • Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.

    – Rasdashan
    57 mins ago














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A beta reader of sorts (cousin) mentioned he thought my MC2 rather brutal in her capture of MC1 - though justified.



I have her dupe him into surrendering (believing himself outnumbered and outgunned). Once he does surrender, she does the following:




  • searches him

  • disarms him

  • handcuffs him

  • binds his elbows to prevent escape

  • rigs a chokehold out of a dog leash

  • threatens him with a hunting knife

  • holds him at gun point

  • threatens to geld him (psychological tactic only)


She is successful in convincing him that any unsanctioned movement is a bad idea. She uses these tactics because she is smaller than he is and she would lose in a fight. She cannot allow him, at that moment, to consider resisting.



Has she crossed the line between using justified force to bring in a dangerous prisoner and brutality?



It occurs in Bolivia shortly after an assassination.










share|improve this question
















A beta reader of sorts (cousin) mentioned he thought my MC2 rather brutal in her capture of MC1 - though justified.



I have her dupe him into surrendering (believing himself outnumbered and outgunned). Once he does surrender, she does the following:




  • searches him

  • disarms him

  • handcuffs him

  • binds his elbows to prevent escape

  • rigs a chokehold out of a dog leash

  • threatens him with a hunting knife

  • holds him at gun point

  • threatens to geld him (psychological tactic only)


She is successful in convincing him that any unsanctioned movement is a bad idea. She uses these tactics because she is smaller than he is and she would lose in a fight. She cannot allow him, at that moment, to consider resisting.



Has she crossed the line between using justified force to bring in a dangerous prisoner and brutality?



It occurs in Bolivia shortly after an assassination.







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    Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.

    – Arkenstein XII
    1 hour ago











  • Is she highly trained at apprehending prisoners? (It sounds like she is, but I'd like to hear it explicitly)

    – bruglesco
    59 mins ago











  • Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.

    – Rasdashan
    57 mins ago














  • 2





    Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.

    – Arkenstein XII
    1 hour ago











  • Is she highly trained at apprehending prisoners? (It sounds like she is, but I'd like to hear it explicitly)

    – bruglesco
    59 mins ago











  • Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.

    – Rasdashan
    57 mins ago








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Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.

– Arkenstein XII
1 hour ago





Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.

– Arkenstein XII
1 hour ago













Is she highly trained at apprehending prisoners? (It sounds like she is, but I'd like to hear it explicitly)

– bruglesco
59 mins ago





Is she highly trained at apprehending prisoners? (It sounds like she is, but I'd like to hear it explicitly)

– bruglesco
59 mins ago













Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.

– Rasdashan
57 mins ago





Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.

– Rasdashan
57 mins ago










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The tone of your writing will make the difference



Written out in a cold hard list like that is certainly sounds brutal. MC2 has MC1 at their mercy and yet continues to threaten and abuse them. If you want to portray the brutality of the scene then you don't have a problem. If you didn't intend for it to sound so harsh then you need to look at how you describe their actions.



Why are they doing it?



When a character is truly brutal and cares little for the life of their target then they will show little emotion or even take pleasure in the acts. Writing their behaviour in this way will increase the brutality of the scene.




She uses these tactics because she is smaller than he is and she would lose in a fight. She cannot allow him, at that moment, to consider resisting.




This makes it sound like the motivation is fear. MC2 is afraid of what MC1 will do when they break out and are doing everything they possibly can to prevent that. You need to show your readers that fear, a voice-crack and shaking hand when pointing the gun something that displays that MC2 isn't as confident as their actions appear.




Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.




Desperation is a similar motivator to fear. Show how the character doesn't want to do this but feels like they have no choice. This works particularly well if you show us the reason for their desperation, why is this so important to them?



Characters acting out of fear or desperation is something we can emphasize with and will reduce the feeling of brutality in your scene. Potentially you still make one too many threats but if you make it clear that these are hollow threats and MC2 is unlikely to follow through it won't seem so brutal.





A side note, if MC2 is performing an arrest in any kind of official capacity; law-enforcement, military or covert operation, they have certainly crossed the line. The most concerning is the choke-hold leash and the threat of gelding. Everything else is within the bounds of normal arrest behaviour.






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  • The choke-hold is something she rigs so she can safely transport him. She cannot be both guard and driver, so rigs the choke-hold to maintain control during transit

    – Rasdashan
    46 mins ago






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    @Rasdashan Fair enough, the point is that a police officer still wouldn't do this. Lock them in the boot/trunk of a car maybe if they had no other way to restrain them but choke-hold is pretty brutal. Usually restraining the arms and putting them in the backseat is enough.

    – linksassin
    44 mins ago





















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Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.



Police forces in many nations are bound by principles of criminal justice ethics, and in fact, there are laws that police officers must adhere to in order to avoid misconduct.



Your officer is likely fully aware that misconduct will badly affect the case she is working on, so unless her behaviour is driven by personal factors rather than professional ones (e.g. fear, hatred, revenge, prejudice), this is likely too brutal.






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    +1 Laws regarding police misconduct might be different in different places. It is actually a very good idea to check what those laws are in the location where the story takes place. If more brutal actions are permitted there, that could make for an interesting story element.

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Justification is a theme for you to explore



You decide what is justified. You decide what gives someone the right to do what she does.




  • Do the ends justify the means?

  • For the greater good.

  • Fear and self-defense. Is it self-defense when she is the pursuer?

  • No cause is just enough. As an officer of the law she has a duty to make apprehensions while maintaining the basic human rights of the prisoner.


I find a couple of things unlikely and requiring explanation, if you pursued this. Your officer is highly trained and presumably used to making captures. Or is she? If she is new, unqualified or unskilled in some way that might justify her fear. Your prisoner could also have a reputation that precedes itself. Even the most skilled and trained officer might be afraid when faced against a notorious fugitive. These are pretty drastic extremes, but sometimes that happens in our writing.



One thing struck me though. Something you said in a comment in response to me asking you if she was highly trained.




Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists,
her chance to apprehend him is gone.




That doesn't sound like she is afraid for her safety. That sounds like she is afraid she might not win.



If she does this just to be sure she wins, because she always gets her man, and they never escape when she does, then she is a sociopath. This is absolutely brutality.



But then again, maybe she needs to get her man because too much is at stake if he escapes. Too many people will die.



Or they live in a police state.



Regardless of which direction you go with, you should research takedown and restraint techniques for people of smaller stature vs people much bigger than them. Something tells me that even if she was okay with brutality,






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  • prisoner is known to be potentially lethal. She is experienced, but feels these measures are required to ensure success and her own safety.

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  • @Rasdashan there is a difference between apprehending a known murderer and pursuing Jason Bourne. Many dangerous criminal are potentially lethal. If that alone was justification you would see cops carrying choke collars with their handcuffs.

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The tone of your writing will make the difference



Written out in a cold hard list like that is certainly sounds brutal. MC2 has MC1 at their mercy and yet continues to threaten and abuse them. If you want to portray the brutality of the scene then you don't have a problem. If you didn't intend for it to sound so harsh then you need to look at how you describe their actions.



Why are they doing it?



When a character is truly brutal and cares little for the life of their target then they will show little emotion or even take pleasure in the acts. Writing their behaviour in this way will increase the brutality of the scene.




She uses these tactics because she is smaller than he is and she would lose in a fight. She cannot allow him, at that moment, to consider resisting.




This makes it sound like the motivation is fear. MC2 is afraid of what MC1 will do when they break out and are doing everything they possibly can to prevent that. You need to show your readers that fear, a voice-crack and shaking hand when pointing the gun something that displays that MC2 isn't as confident as their actions appear.




Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.




Desperation is a similar motivator to fear. Show how the character doesn't want to do this but feels like they have no choice. This works particularly well if you show us the reason for their desperation, why is this so important to them?



Characters acting out of fear or desperation is something we can emphasize with and will reduce the feeling of brutality in your scene. Potentially you still make one too many threats but if you make it clear that these are hollow threats and MC2 is unlikely to follow through it won't seem so brutal.





A side note, if MC2 is performing an arrest in any kind of official capacity; law-enforcement, military or covert operation, they have certainly crossed the line. The most concerning is the choke-hold leash and the threat of gelding. Everything else is within the bounds of normal arrest behaviour.






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  • The choke-hold is something she rigs so she can safely transport him. She cannot be both guard and driver, so rigs the choke-hold to maintain control during transit

    – Rasdashan
    46 mins ago






  • 2





    @Rasdashan Fair enough, the point is that a police officer still wouldn't do this. Lock them in the boot/trunk of a car maybe if they had no other way to restrain them but choke-hold is pretty brutal. Usually restraining the arms and putting them in the backseat is enough.

    – linksassin
    44 mins ago


















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The tone of your writing will make the difference



Written out in a cold hard list like that is certainly sounds brutal. MC2 has MC1 at their mercy and yet continues to threaten and abuse them. If you want to portray the brutality of the scene then you don't have a problem. If you didn't intend for it to sound so harsh then you need to look at how you describe their actions.



Why are they doing it?



When a character is truly brutal and cares little for the life of their target then they will show little emotion or even take pleasure in the acts. Writing their behaviour in this way will increase the brutality of the scene.




She uses these tactics because she is smaller than he is and she would lose in a fight. She cannot allow him, at that moment, to consider resisting.




This makes it sound like the motivation is fear. MC2 is afraid of what MC1 will do when they break out and are doing everything they possibly can to prevent that. You need to show your readers that fear, a voice-crack and shaking hand when pointing the gun something that displays that MC2 isn't as confident as their actions appear.




Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.




Desperation is a similar motivator to fear. Show how the character doesn't want to do this but feels like they have no choice. This works particularly well if you show us the reason for their desperation, why is this so important to them?



Characters acting out of fear or desperation is something we can emphasize with and will reduce the feeling of brutality in your scene. Potentially you still make one too many threats but if you make it clear that these are hollow threats and MC2 is unlikely to follow through it won't seem so brutal.





A side note, if MC2 is performing an arrest in any kind of official capacity; law-enforcement, military or covert operation, they have certainly crossed the line. The most concerning is the choke-hold leash and the threat of gelding. Everything else is within the bounds of normal arrest behaviour.






share|improve this answer


























  • The choke-hold is something she rigs so she can safely transport him. She cannot be both guard and driver, so rigs the choke-hold to maintain control during transit

    – Rasdashan
    46 mins ago






  • 2





    @Rasdashan Fair enough, the point is that a police officer still wouldn't do this. Lock them in the boot/trunk of a car maybe if they had no other way to restrain them but choke-hold is pretty brutal. Usually restraining the arms and putting them in the backseat is enough.

    – linksassin
    44 mins ago
















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The tone of your writing will make the difference



Written out in a cold hard list like that is certainly sounds brutal. MC2 has MC1 at their mercy and yet continues to threaten and abuse them. If you want to portray the brutality of the scene then you don't have a problem. If you didn't intend for it to sound so harsh then you need to look at how you describe their actions.



Why are they doing it?



When a character is truly brutal and cares little for the life of their target then they will show little emotion or even take pleasure in the acts. Writing their behaviour in this way will increase the brutality of the scene.




She uses these tactics because she is smaller than he is and she would lose in a fight. She cannot allow him, at that moment, to consider resisting.




This makes it sound like the motivation is fear. MC2 is afraid of what MC1 will do when they break out and are doing everything they possibly can to prevent that. You need to show your readers that fear, a voice-crack and shaking hand when pointing the gun something that displays that MC2 isn't as confident as their actions appear.




Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.




Desperation is a similar motivator to fear. Show how the character doesn't want to do this but feels like they have no choice. This works particularly well if you show us the reason for their desperation, why is this so important to them?



Characters acting out of fear or desperation is something we can emphasize with and will reduce the feeling of brutality in your scene. Potentially you still make one too many threats but if you make it clear that these are hollow threats and MC2 is unlikely to follow through it won't seem so brutal.





A side note, if MC2 is performing an arrest in any kind of official capacity; law-enforcement, military or covert operation, they have certainly crossed the line. The most concerning is the choke-hold leash and the threat of gelding. Everything else is within the bounds of normal arrest behaviour.






share|improve this answer















The tone of your writing will make the difference



Written out in a cold hard list like that is certainly sounds brutal. MC2 has MC1 at their mercy and yet continues to threaten and abuse them. If you want to portray the brutality of the scene then you don't have a problem. If you didn't intend for it to sound so harsh then you need to look at how you describe their actions.



Why are they doing it?



When a character is truly brutal and cares little for the life of their target then they will show little emotion or even take pleasure in the acts. Writing their behaviour in this way will increase the brutality of the scene.




She uses these tactics because she is smaller than he is and she would lose in a fight. She cannot allow him, at that moment, to consider resisting.




This makes it sound like the motivation is fear. MC2 is afraid of what MC1 will do when they break out and are doing everything they possibly can to prevent that. You need to show your readers that fear, a voice-crack and shaking hand when pointing the gun something that displays that MC2 isn't as confident as their actions appear.




Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists, her chance to apprehend him is gone.




Desperation is a similar motivator to fear. Show how the character doesn't want to do this but feels like they have no choice. This works particularly well if you show us the reason for their desperation, why is this so important to them?



Characters acting out of fear or desperation is something we can emphasize with and will reduce the feeling of brutality in your scene. Potentially you still make one too many threats but if you make it clear that these are hollow threats and MC2 is unlikely to follow through it won't seem so brutal.





A side note, if MC2 is performing an arrest in any kind of official capacity; law-enforcement, military or covert operation, they have certainly crossed the line. The most concerning is the choke-hold leash and the threat of gelding. Everything else is within the bounds of normal arrest behaviour.







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  • The choke-hold is something she rigs so she can safely transport him. She cannot be both guard and driver, so rigs the choke-hold to maintain control during transit

    – Rasdashan
    46 mins ago






  • 2





    @Rasdashan Fair enough, the point is that a police officer still wouldn't do this. Lock them in the boot/trunk of a car maybe if they had no other way to restrain them but choke-hold is pretty brutal. Usually restraining the arms and putting them in the backseat is enough.

    – linksassin
    44 mins ago





















  • The choke-hold is something she rigs so she can safely transport him. She cannot be both guard and driver, so rigs the choke-hold to maintain control during transit

    – Rasdashan
    46 mins ago






  • 2





    @Rasdashan Fair enough, the point is that a police officer still wouldn't do this. Lock them in the boot/trunk of a car maybe if they had no other way to restrain them but choke-hold is pretty brutal. Usually restraining the arms and putting them in the backseat is enough.

    – linksassin
    44 mins ago



















The choke-hold is something she rigs so she can safely transport him. She cannot be both guard and driver, so rigs the choke-hold to maintain control during transit

– Rasdashan
46 mins ago





The choke-hold is something she rigs so she can safely transport him. She cannot be both guard and driver, so rigs the choke-hold to maintain control during transit

– Rasdashan
46 mins ago




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@Rasdashan Fair enough, the point is that a police officer still wouldn't do this. Lock them in the boot/trunk of a car maybe if they had no other way to restrain them but choke-hold is pretty brutal. Usually restraining the arms and putting them in the backseat is enough.

– linksassin
44 mins ago







@Rasdashan Fair enough, the point is that a police officer still wouldn't do this. Lock them in the boot/trunk of a car maybe if they had no other way to restrain them but choke-hold is pretty brutal. Usually restraining the arms and putting them in the backseat is enough.

– linksassin
44 mins ago













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Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.



Police forces in many nations are bound by principles of criminal justice ethics, and in fact, there are laws that police officers must adhere to in order to avoid misconduct.



Your officer is likely fully aware that misconduct will badly affect the case she is working on, so unless her behaviour is driven by personal factors rather than professional ones (e.g. fear, hatred, revenge, prejudice), this is likely too brutal.






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    +1 Laws regarding police misconduct might be different in different places. It is actually a very good idea to check what those laws are in the location where the story takes place. If more brutal actions are permitted there, that could make for an interesting story element.

    – Galastel
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Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.



Police forces in many nations are bound by principles of criminal justice ethics, and in fact, there are laws that police officers must adhere to in order to avoid misconduct.



Your officer is likely fully aware that misconduct will badly affect the case she is working on, so unless her behaviour is driven by personal factors rather than professional ones (e.g. fear, hatred, revenge, prejudice), this is likely too brutal.






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Arkenstein XII is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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  • 1





    +1 Laws regarding police misconduct might be different in different places. It is actually a very good idea to check what those laws are in the location where the story takes place. If more brutal actions are permitted there, that could make for an interesting story element.

    – Galastel
    36 mins ago
















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Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.



Police forces in many nations are bound by principles of criminal justice ethics, and in fact, there are laws that police officers must adhere to in order to avoid misconduct.



Your officer is likely fully aware that misconduct will badly affect the case she is working on, so unless her behaviour is driven by personal factors rather than professional ones (e.g. fear, hatred, revenge, prejudice), this is likely too brutal.






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New contributor




Arkenstein XII is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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Assuming the detainer is a police officer, in many jurisdictions this would be considered unnecessary force, i.e. illegal, and would likely result in the detainee having to be released.



Police forces in many nations are bound by principles of criminal justice ethics, and in fact, there are laws that police officers must adhere to in order to avoid misconduct.



Your officer is likely fully aware that misconduct will badly affect the case she is working on, so unless her behaviour is driven by personal factors rather than professional ones (e.g. fear, hatred, revenge, prejudice), this is likely too brutal.







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    +1 Laws regarding police misconduct might be different in different places. It is actually a very good idea to check what those laws are in the location where the story takes place. If more brutal actions are permitted there, that could make for an interesting story element.

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    +1 Laws regarding police misconduct might be different in different places. It is actually a very good idea to check what those laws are in the location where the story takes place. If more brutal actions are permitted there, that could make for an interesting story element.

    – Galastel
    36 mins ago










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+1 Laws regarding police misconduct might be different in different places. It is actually a very good idea to check what those laws are in the location where the story takes place. If more brutal actions are permitted there, that could make for an interesting story element.

– Galastel
36 mins ago







+1 Laws regarding police misconduct might be different in different places. It is actually a very good idea to check what those laws are in the location where the story takes place. If more brutal actions are permitted there, that could make for an interesting story element.

– Galastel
36 mins ago













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Justification is a theme for you to explore



You decide what is justified. You decide what gives someone the right to do what she does.




  • Do the ends justify the means?

  • For the greater good.

  • Fear and self-defense. Is it self-defense when she is the pursuer?

  • No cause is just enough. As an officer of the law she has a duty to make apprehensions while maintaining the basic human rights of the prisoner.


I find a couple of things unlikely and requiring explanation, if you pursued this. Your officer is highly trained and presumably used to making captures. Or is she? If she is new, unqualified or unskilled in some way that might justify her fear. Your prisoner could also have a reputation that precedes itself. Even the most skilled and trained officer might be afraid when faced against a notorious fugitive. These are pretty drastic extremes, but sometimes that happens in our writing.



One thing struck me though. Something you said in a comment in response to me asking you if she was highly trained.




Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists,
her chance to apprehend him is gone.




That doesn't sound like she is afraid for her safety. That sounds like she is afraid she might not win.



If she does this just to be sure she wins, because she always gets her man, and they never escape when she does, then she is a sociopath. This is absolutely brutality.



But then again, maybe she needs to get her man because too much is at stake if he escapes. Too many people will die.



Or they live in a police state.



Regardless of which direction you go with, you should research takedown and restraint techniques for people of smaller stature vs people much bigger than them. Something tells me that even if she was okay with brutality,






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  • prisoner is known to be potentially lethal. She is experienced, but feels these measures are required to ensure success and her own safety.

    – Rasdashan
    5 mins ago











  • @Rasdashan there is a difference between apprehending a known murderer and pursuing Jason Bourne. Many dangerous criminal are potentially lethal. If that alone was justification you would see cops carrying choke collars with their handcuffs.

    – bruglesco
    2 mins ago
















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Justification is a theme for you to explore



You decide what is justified. You decide what gives someone the right to do what she does.




  • Do the ends justify the means?

  • For the greater good.

  • Fear and self-defense. Is it self-defense when she is the pursuer?

  • No cause is just enough. As an officer of the law she has a duty to make apprehensions while maintaining the basic human rights of the prisoner.


I find a couple of things unlikely and requiring explanation, if you pursued this. Your officer is highly trained and presumably used to making captures. Or is she? If she is new, unqualified or unskilled in some way that might justify her fear. Your prisoner could also have a reputation that precedes itself. Even the most skilled and trained officer might be afraid when faced against a notorious fugitive. These are pretty drastic extremes, but sometimes that happens in our writing.



One thing struck me though. Something you said in a comment in response to me asking you if she was highly trained.




Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists,
her chance to apprehend him is gone.




That doesn't sound like she is afraid for her safety. That sounds like she is afraid she might not win.



If she does this just to be sure she wins, because she always gets her man, and they never escape when she does, then she is a sociopath. This is absolutely brutality.



But then again, maybe she needs to get her man because too much is at stake if he escapes. Too many people will die.



Or they live in a police state.



Regardless of which direction you go with, you should research takedown and restraint techniques for people of smaller stature vs people much bigger than them. Something tells me that even if she was okay with brutality,






share|improve this answer


























  • prisoner is known to be potentially lethal. She is experienced, but feels these measures are required to ensure success and her own safety.

    – Rasdashan
    5 mins ago











  • @Rasdashan there is a difference between apprehending a known murderer and pursuing Jason Bourne. Many dangerous criminal are potentially lethal. If that alone was justification you would see cops carrying choke collars with their handcuffs.

    – bruglesco
    2 mins ago














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Justification is a theme for you to explore



You decide what is justified. You decide what gives someone the right to do what she does.




  • Do the ends justify the means?

  • For the greater good.

  • Fear and self-defense. Is it self-defense when she is the pursuer?

  • No cause is just enough. As an officer of the law she has a duty to make apprehensions while maintaining the basic human rights of the prisoner.


I find a couple of things unlikely and requiring explanation, if you pursued this. Your officer is highly trained and presumably used to making captures. Or is she? If she is new, unqualified or unskilled in some way that might justify her fear. Your prisoner could also have a reputation that precedes itself. Even the most skilled and trained officer might be afraid when faced against a notorious fugitive. These are pretty drastic extremes, but sometimes that happens in our writing.



One thing struck me though. Something you said in a comment in response to me asking you if she was highly trained.




Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists,
her chance to apprehend him is gone.




That doesn't sound like she is afraid for her safety. That sounds like she is afraid she might not win.



If she does this just to be sure she wins, because she always gets her man, and they never escape when she does, then she is a sociopath. This is absolutely brutality.



But then again, maybe she needs to get her man because too much is at stake if he escapes. Too many people will die.



Or they live in a police state.



Regardless of which direction you go with, you should research takedown and restraint techniques for people of smaller stature vs people much bigger than them. Something tells me that even if she was okay with brutality,






share|improve this answer















Justification is a theme for you to explore



You decide what is justified. You decide what gives someone the right to do what she does.




  • Do the ends justify the means?

  • For the greater good.

  • Fear and self-defense. Is it self-defense when she is the pursuer?

  • No cause is just enough. As an officer of the law she has a duty to make apprehensions while maintaining the basic human rights of the prisoner.


I find a couple of things unlikely and requiring explanation, if you pursued this. Your officer is highly trained and presumably used to making captures. Or is she? If she is new, unqualified or unskilled in some way that might justify her fear. Your prisoner could also have a reputation that precedes itself. Even the most skilled and trained officer might be afraid when faced against a notorious fugitive. These are pretty drastic extremes, but sometimes that happens in our writing.



One thing struck me though. Something you said in a comment in response to me asking you if she was highly trained.




Yes, she is. Her concern was she was without backup and if he resists,
her chance to apprehend him is gone.




That doesn't sound like she is afraid for her safety. That sounds like she is afraid she might not win.



If she does this just to be sure she wins, because she always gets her man, and they never escape when she does, then she is a sociopath. This is absolutely brutality.



But then again, maybe she needs to get her man because too much is at stake if he escapes. Too many people will die.



Or they live in a police state.



Regardless of which direction you go with, you should research takedown and restraint techniques for people of smaller stature vs people much bigger than them. Something tells me that even if she was okay with brutality,







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  • prisoner is known to be potentially lethal. She is experienced, but feels these measures are required to ensure success and her own safety.

    – Rasdashan
    5 mins ago











  • @Rasdashan there is a difference between apprehending a known murderer and pursuing Jason Bourne. Many dangerous criminal are potentially lethal. If that alone was justification you would see cops carrying choke collars with their handcuffs.

    – bruglesco
    2 mins ago



















  • prisoner is known to be potentially lethal. She is experienced, but feels these measures are required to ensure success and her own safety.

    – Rasdashan
    5 mins ago











  • @Rasdashan there is a difference between apprehending a known murderer and pursuing Jason Bourne. Many dangerous criminal are potentially lethal. If that alone was justification you would see cops carrying choke collars with their handcuffs.

    – bruglesco
    2 mins ago

















prisoner is known to be potentially lethal. She is experienced, but feels these measures are required to ensure success and her own safety.

– Rasdashan
5 mins ago





prisoner is known to be potentially lethal. She is experienced, but feels these measures are required to ensure success and her own safety.

– Rasdashan
5 mins ago













@Rasdashan there is a difference between apprehending a known murderer and pursuing Jason Bourne. Many dangerous criminal are potentially lethal. If that alone was justification you would see cops carrying choke collars with their handcuffs.

– bruglesco
2 mins ago





@Rasdashan there is a difference between apprehending a known murderer and pursuing Jason Bourne. Many dangerous criminal are potentially lethal. If that alone was justification you would see cops carrying choke collars with their handcuffs.

– bruglesco
2 mins ago


















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