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Confusion on Parallelogram

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i know it's rude and pretentious and maybe stupid to ask such question but, i would like to know the reason why in geometry the area of a parallelogram follows this formula :

$ Base times Height $

and not this one :

$ Base times Side $

I saw this method which consists of transforming our figure into a rectangle by moving the black one to the right, and that seems logical to me, but why not adopt the second rule, all the horizontal points multiplied by the vertical ones ?

PS : I found the same Visualizing the Area of a Parallelogram, but was unconvinced by the answers

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i know it's rude and pretentious and maybe stupid to ask such question but, i would like to know the reason why in geometry the area of a parallelogram follows this formula :

$ Base times Height $

and not this one :

$ Base times Side $

I saw this method which consists of transforming our figure into a rectangle by moving the black one to the right, and that seems logical to me, but why not adopt the second rule, all the horizontal points multiplied by the vertical ones ?

PS : I found the same Visualizing the Area of a Parallelogram, but was unconvinced by the answers

geometry

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  Possible duplicate of Visualizing the Area of a Parallelogram
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i know it's rude and pretentious and maybe stupid to ask such question but, i would like to know the reason why in geometry the area of a parallelogram follows this formula :

$ Base times Height $

and not this one :

$ Base times Side $

I saw this method which consists of transforming our figure into a rectangle by moving the black one to the right, and that seems logical to me, but why not adopt the second rule, all the horizontal points multiplied by the vertical ones ?

PS : I found the same Visualizing the Area of a Parallelogram, but was unconvinced by the answers

geometry

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Sometimes a figure is worth 1000 words:

Very long base and very long side and very small area.

Or...

...each of these parallelograms has the same base and side, but manifestly different areas:

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You can't "adopt the second rule" because it gives the wrong answer. The parallelogram in your picture has all four sides of length $5$, There are lots of parallelograms like that, depending on the angle between adjacent sides. The largest is a square. If you make the acute angle smaller and smaller you find parallelograms that are nearly on a line, with tiny areas. But your formula would say they all have area $25$.

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As you point out, the first method is logical, as it uses a formula we already know to be true (the familiar area formula for a rectangle), and then transforms our figure without changing the area, so that we can apply the rule.

To see why we can't simply multiply $5$ and $5$ to get the answer, draw the $5times 5$ square. Your parallelogram can't fill it by cut and paste. Alternatively, you can draw $25$ unit squares, and try to cut and paste them into the parallelogram. You'll only be able to make $20$ of them fit.

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Sometimes a figure is worth 1000 words:

Very long base and very long side and very small area.

Or...

...each of these parallelograms has the same base and side, but manifestly different areas:

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Sometimes a figure is worth 1000 words:

Very long base and very long side and very small area.

Or...

...each of these parallelograms has the same base and side, but manifestly different areas:

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edited 5 hours ago

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$begingroup$

Sometimes a figure is worth 1000 words:

Very long base and very long side and very small area.

Or...

...each of these parallelograms has the same base and side, but manifestly different areas:

share|cite|improve this answer

edited 5 hours ago

answered 6 hours ago

David G. StorkDavid G. Stork

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edited 5 hours ago

answered 6 hours ago

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answered 6 hours ago

David G. StorkDavid G. Stork

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You can't "adopt the second rule" because it gives the wrong answer. The parallelogram in your picture has all four sides of length $5$, There are lots of parallelograms like that, depending on the angle between adjacent sides. The largest is a square. If you make the acute angle smaller and smaller you find parallelograms that are nearly on a line, with tiny areas. But your formula would say they all have area $25$.

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3

$begingroup$

You can't "adopt the second rule" because it gives the wrong answer. The parallelogram in your picture has all four sides of length $5$, There are lots of parallelograms like that, depending on the angle between adjacent sides. The largest is a square. If you make the acute angle smaller and smaller you find parallelograms that are nearly on a line, with tiny areas. But your formula would say they all have area $25$.

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answered 6 hours ago

Ethan BolkerEthan Bolker

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$begingroup$

You can't "adopt the second rule" because it gives the wrong answer. The parallelogram in your picture has all four sides of length $5$, There are lots of parallelograms like that, depending on the angle between adjacent sides. The largest is a square. If you make the acute angle smaller and smaller you find parallelograms that are nearly on a line, with tiny areas. But your formula would say they all have area $25$.

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answered 6 hours ago

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answered 6 hours ago

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answered 6 hours ago

Ethan BolkerEthan Bolker

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$begingroup$

As you point out, the first method is logical, as it uses a formula we already know to be true (the familiar area formula for a rectangle), and then transforms our figure without changing the area, so that we can apply the rule.

To see why we can't simply multiply $5$ and $5$ to get the answer, draw the $5times 5$ square. Your parallelogram can't fill it by cut and paste. Alternatively, you can draw $25$ unit squares, and try to cut and paste them into the parallelogram. You'll only be able to make $20$ of them fit.

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answered 6 hours ago

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1

$begingroup$

As you point out, the first method is logical, as it uses a formula we already know to be true (the familiar area formula for a rectangle), and then transforms our figure without changing the area, so that we can apply the rule.

To see why we can't simply multiply $5$ and $5$ to get the answer, draw the $5times 5$ square. Your parallelogram can't fill it by cut and paste. Alternatively, you can draw $25$ unit squares, and try to cut and paste them into the parallelogram. You'll only be able to make $20$ of them fit.

share|cite|improve this answer

answered 6 hours ago

Cameron BuieCameron Buie

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$begingroup$

As you point out, the first method is logical, as it uses a formula we already know to be true (the familiar area formula for a rectangle), and then transforms our figure without changing the area, so that we can apply the rule.

To see why we can't simply multiply $5$ and $5$ to get the answer, draw the $5times 5$ square. Your parallelogram can't fill it by cut and paste. Alternatively, you can draw $25$ unit squares, and try to cut and paste them into the parallelogram. You'll only be able to make $20$ of them fit.

share|cite|improve this answer

answered 6 hours ago

Cameron BuieCameron Buie

86.2k772161

$endgroup$

share|cite|improve this answer

answered 6 hours ago

Cameron BuieCameron Buie

86.2k772161

answered 6 hours ago

Cameron BuieCameron Buie

86.2k772161

answered 6 hours ago

Cameron BuieCameron Buie

86.2k772161