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    I’m seeing a wall of book spines... admittedly without visible titles, but they’re not stored ‘backwards ‘

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    I suspect, you can take the book off the otherside of the shelf...

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    @Tetsujin I'm seeing a wall of book covers, both front and back, with sunken spaces in between them that presumably show the edges of the books' pages. It's especially visible if you look at the second shelf on the left, and look at the tops of the books.

    – BrettFromLA
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    hmmm... I'm now seeing the equivalent of old woman/young girl... candlestick/lovers. Every time I glance at it the spines invert.

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    That's the spine of the book facing the back of the shelf, not the cover.

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    I’m seeing a wall of book spines... admittedly without visible titles, but they’re not stored ‘backwards ‘

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    I suspect, you can take the book off the otherside of the shelf...

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    @Tetsujin I'm seeing a wall of book covers, both front and back, with sunken spaces in between them that presumably show the edges of the books' pages. It's especially visible if you look at the second shelf on the left, and look at the tops of the books.

    – BrettFromLA
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    hmmm... I'm now seeing the equivalent of old woman/young girl... candlestick/lovers. Every time I glance at it the spines invert.

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    That's the spine of the book facing the back of the shelf, not the cover.

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  • 2





    I’m seeing a wall of book spines... admittedly without visible titles, but they’re not stored ‘backwards ‘

    – Tetsujin
    23 hours ago






  • 3





    I suspect, you can take the book off the otherside of the shelf...

    – morbo
    22 hours ago






  • 5





    @Tetsujin I'm seeing a wall of book covers, both front and back, with sunken spaces in between them that presumably show the edges of the books' pages. It's especially visible if you look at the second shelf on the left, and look at the tops of the books.

    – BrettFromLA
    18 hours ago






  • 2





    hmmm... I'm now seeing the equivalent of old woman/young girl... candlestick/lovers. Every time I glance at it the spines invert.

    – Tetsujin
    13 hours ago






  • 3





    That's the spine of the book facing the back of the shelf, not the cover.

    – Nuclear Wang
    6 hours ago














  • 2





    I’m seeing a wall of book spines... admittedly without visible titles, but they’re not stored ‘backwards ‘

    – Tetsujin
    23 hours ago






  • 3





    I suspect, you can take the book off the otherside of the shelf...

    – morbo
    22 hours ago






  • 5





    @Tetsujin I'm seeing a wall of book covers, both front and back, with sunken spaces in between them that presumably show the edges of the books' pages. It's especially visible if you look at the second shelf on the left, and look at the tops of the books.

    – BrettFromLA
    18 hours ago






  • 2





    hmmm... I'm now seeing the equivalent of old woman/young girl... candlestick/lovers. Every time I glance at it the spines invert.

    – Tetsujin
    13 hours ago






  • 3





    That's the spine of the book facing the back of the shelf, not the cover.

    – Nuclear Wang
    6 hours ago








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I’m seeing a wall of book spines... admittedly without visible titles, but they’re not stored ‘backwards ‘

– Tetsujin
23 hours ago





I’m seeing a wall of book spines... admittedly without visible titles, but they’re not stored ‘backwards ‘

– Tetsujin
23 hours ago




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I suspect, you can take the book off the otherside of the shelf...

– morbo
22 hours ago





I suspect, you can take the book off the otherside of the shelf...

– morbo
22 hours ago




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@Tetsujin I'm seeing a wall of book covers, both front and back, with sunken spaces in between them that presumably show the edges of the books' pages. It's especially visible if you look at the second shelf on the left, and look at the tops of the books.

– BrettFromLA
18 hours ago





@Tetsujin I'm seeing a wall of book covers, both front and back, with sunken spaces in between them that presumably show the edges of the books' pages. It's especially visible if you look at the second shelf on the left, and look at the tops of the books.

– BrettFromLA
18 hours ago




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hmmm... I'm now seeing the equivalent of old woman/young girl... candlestick/lovers. Every time I glance at it the spines invert.

– Tetsujin
13 hours ago





hmmm... I'm now seeing the equivalent of old woman/young girl... candlestick/lovers. Every time I glance at it the spines invert.

– Tetsujin
13 hours ago




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That's the spine of the book facing the back of the shelf, not the cover.

– Nuclear Wang
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That's the spine of the book facing the back of the shelf, not the cover.

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Having books with the spine facing out is a relatively recent innovation.




For the record, when you tuck a book away with the title-bearing spine pointing out, you’re carrying on a tradition that began roughly 480 years ago. “The first spine with printing dates from 1535, and it was then that books began to spin into the position we’re familiar with,” says Mari.



But before book, there were scrolls, and that’s where Mari’s story starts.





- Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
- Smithsonian




Since Game of thrones is a fantasy and seems to be (comparatively) set in what would have been something close to Earth's "Middle Ages" with knights and kings all warring constantly this seems to be a pretty accurate depiction of a library.




As scrolls gave way to books, new shelves and a new organizational system were in order.




For the next fourteen hundred or so years, books, as Henry Petroski, a professor of civic engineering and history at Duke, writes in The Book on the Bookshelf, were shelved every which way but straight up, spine out. Engravings of private studies show books piled horizontally, standing on the edge opposite their spine (their fore edge), as well as turned fore edge out.




Before the printing press books were ornate constructions, and in comparison to what came after they were both highly valuable and in short supply.




In the Middle Ages, when monasteries were the closest equivalent to a public library, monks kept works in their carrels. To increase circulation, these works were eventually chained to inclined desks, or lecterns, thus giving ownership of a work to a particular lectern rather than a particular monk.




When space got tight the monks moved their books to shelves, but they stacked them with the spines hidden. Which, as you can imagine, would have been quite confusing. The solution, Mari says: “Sometimes an identifying design was drawn across the thick of the pages.”





- Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
- Smithsonian




So, to answer your question about how they were identified: there were sometimes identifying markings on "The thick of the pages".






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    Also noteworthy is that since they're chained to the shelf, they cannot easily be reshelved in the wrong order because the chain tells you where it goes, so you can tell which is which based solely on its location.

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Originally the shelf marks and titling of a book was written on its fore-edge, the paper part of the book, not on the back (the spine) the way they are today.



The GOT library is modelled after the chained library of Hereford Cathedral. In that library the books have only shelf marks and they are written on the fore-edge, so the fore-edge is the part of the book facing outwards.



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Image shared by Hereford Cathedral's official Twitter account to mark
Book Week 2018




The chaining of books was the most widespread and effective security system in European libraries from the Middle Ages to the 18th century, and Hereford Cathedral’s 17th-century Chained Library is the largest to survive with all its chains, rods and locks intact.



A chain is attached at one end to the front cover of each book; the other end is slotted on to a rod running along the bottom of each shelf. The system allows a book to be taken from the shelf and read at the desk, but not to be removed from the bookcase.



The books are shelved with their foredges, rather than their spines, facing the reader (the wrong way round to us); this allows the book to be lifted down and opened without needing to be turned around – thus avoiding tangling the chain.




Quote from the official Hereford Cathedral's page on the Chained Library






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    Having books with the spine facing out is a relatively recent innovation.




    For the record, when you tuck a book away with the title-bearing spine pointing out, you’re carrying on a tradition that began roughly 480 years ago. “The first spine with printing dates from 1535, and it was then that books began to spin into the position we’re familiar with,” says Mari.



    But before book, there were scrolls, and that’s where Mari’s story starts.





    - Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
    - Smithsonian




    Since Game of thrones is a fantasy and seems to be (comparatively) set in what would have been something close to Earth's "Middle Ages" with knights and kings all warring constantly this seems to be a pretty accurate depiction of a library.




    As scrolls gave way to books, new shelves and a new organizational system were in order.




    For the next fourteen hundred or so years, books, as Henry Petroski, a professor of civic engineering and history at Duke, writes in The Book on the Bookshelf, were shelved every which way but straight up, spine out. Engravings of private studies show books piled horizontally, standing on the edge opposite their spine (their fore edge), as well as turned fore edge out.




    Before the printing press books were ornate constructions, and in comparison to what came after they were both highly valuable and in short supply.




    In the Middle Ages, when monasteries were the closest equivalent to a public library, monks kept works in their carrels. To increase circulation, these works were eventually chained to inclined desks, or lecterns, thus giving ownership of a work to a particular lectern rather than a particular monk.




    When space got tight the monks moved their books to shelves, but they stacked them with the spines hidden. Which, as you can imagine, would have been quite confusing. The solution, Mari says: “Sometimes an identifying design was drawn across the thick of the pages.”





    - Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
    - Smithsonian




    So, to answer your question about how they were identified: there were sometimes identifying markings on "The thick of the pages".






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    • 1





      Also noteworthy is that since they're chained to the shelf, they cannot easily be reshelved in the wrong order because the chain tells you where it goes, so you can tell which is which based solely on its location.

      – Darrel Hoffman
      6 hours ago
















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    Having books with the spine facing out is a relatively recent innovation.




    For the record, when you tuck a book away with the title-bearing spine pointing out, you’re carrying on a tradition that began roughly 480 years ago. “The first spine with printing dates from 1535, and it was then that books began to spin into the position we’re familiar with,” says Mari.



    But before book, there were scrolls, and that’s where Mari’s story starts.





    - Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
    - Smithsonian




    Since Game of thrones is a fantasy and seems to be (comparatively) set in what would have been something close to Earth's "Middle Ages" with knights and kings all warring constantly this seems to be a pretty accurate depiction of a library.




    As scrolls gave way to books, new shelves and a new organizational system were in order.




    For the next fourteen hundred or so years, books, as Henry Petroski, a professor of civic engineering and history at Duke, writes in The Book on the Bookshelf, were shelved every which way but straight up, spine out. Engravings of private studies show books piled horizontally, standing on the edge opposite their spine (their fore edge), as well as turned fore edge out.




    Before the printing press books were ornate constructions, and in comparison to what came after they were both highly valuable and in short supply.




    In the Middle Ages, when monasteries were the closest equivalent to a public library, monks kept works in their carrels. To increase circulation, these works were eventually chained to inclined desks, or lecterns, thus giving ownership of a work to a particular lectern rather than a particular monk.




    When space got tight the monks moved their books to shelves, but they stacked them with the spines hidden. Which, as you can imagine, would have been quite confusing. The solution, Mari says: “Sometimes an identifying design was drawn across the thick of the pages.”





    - Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
    - Smithsonian




    So, to answer your question about how they were identified: there were sometimes identifying markings on "The thick of the pages".






    share|improve this answer



















    • 1





      Also noteworthy is that since they're chained to the shelf, they cannot easily be reshelved in the wrong order because the chain tells you where it goes, so you can tell which is which based solely on its location.

      – Darrel Hoffman
      6 hours ago














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    Having books with the spine facing out is a relatively recent innovation.




    For the record, when you tuck a book away with the title-bearing spine pointing out, you’re carrying on a tradition that began roughly 480 years ago. “The first spine with printing dates from 1535, and it was then that books began to spin into the position we’re familiar with,” says Mari.



    But before book, there were scrolls, and that’s where Mari’s story starts.





    - Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
    - Smithsonian




    Since Game of thrones is a fantasy and seems to be (comparatively) set in what would have been something close to Earth's "Middle Ages" with knights and kings all warring constantly this seems to be a pretty accurate depiction of a library.




    As scrolls gave way to books, new shelves and a new organizational system were in order.




    For the next fourteen hundred or so years, books, as Henry Petroski, a professor of civic engineering and history at Duke, writes in The Book on the Bookshelf, were shelved every which way but straight up, spine out. Engravings of private studies show books piled horizontally, standing on the edge opposite their spine (their fore edge), as well as turned fore edge out.




    Before the printing press books were ornate constructions, and in comparison to what came after they were both highly valuable and in short supply.




    In the Middle Ages, when monasteries were the closest equivalent to a public library, monks kept works in their carrels. To increase circulation, these works were eventually chained to inclined desks, or lecterns, thus giving ownership of a work to a particular lectern rather than a particular monk.




    When space got tight the monks moved their books to shelves, but they stacked them with the spines hidden. Which, as you can imagine, would have been quite confusing. The solution, Mari says: “Sometimes an identifying design was drawn across the thick of the pages.”





    - Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
    - Smithsonian




    So, to answer your question about how they were identified: there were sometimes identifying markings on "The thick of the pages".






    share|improve this answer













    Having books with the spine facing out is a relatively recent innovation.




    For the record, when you tuck a book away with the title-bearing spine pointing out, you’re carrying on a tradition that began roughly 480 years ago. “The first spine with printing dates from 1535, and it was then that books began to spin into the position we’re familiar with,” says Mari.



    But before book, there were scrolls, and that’s where Mari’s story starts.





    - Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
    - Smithsonian




    Since Game of thrones is a fantasy and seems to be (comparatively) set in what would have been something close to Earth's "Middle Ages" with knights and kings all warring constantly this seems to be a pretty accurate depiction of a library.




    As scrolls gave way to books, new shelves and a new organizational system were in order.




    For the next fourteen hundred or so years, books, as Henry Petroski, a professor of civic engineering and history at Duke, writes in The Book on the Bookshelf, were shelved every which way but straight up, spine out. Engravings of private studies show books piled horizontally, standing on the edge opposite their spine (their fore edge), as well as turned fore edge out.




    Before the printing press books were ornate constructions, and in comparison to what came after they were both highly valuable and in short supply.




    In the Middle Ages, when monasteries were the closest equivalent to a public library, monks kept works in their carrels. To increase circulation, these works were eventually chained to inclined desks, or lecterns, thus giving ownership of a work to a particular lectern rather than a particular monk.




    When space got tight the monks moved their books to shelves, but they stacked them with the spines hidden. Which, as you can imagine, would have been quite confusing. The solution, Mari says: “Sometimes an identifying design was drawn across the thick of the pages.”





    - Libraries Used to Chain Their Books to Shelves, With the Spines Hidden Away
    - Smithsonian




    So, to answer your question about how they were identified: there were sometimes identifying markings on "The thick of the pages".







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      Also noteworthy is that since they're chained to the shelf, they cannot easily be reshelved in the wrong order because the chain tells you where it goes, so you can tell which is which based solely on its location.

      – Darrel Hoffman
      6 hours ago














    • 1





      Also noteworthy is that since they're chained to the shelf, they cannot easily be reshelved in the wrong order because the chain tells you where it goes, so you can tell which is which based solely on its location.

      – Darrel Hoffman
      6 hours ago








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    Also noteworthy is that since they're chained to the shelf, they cannot easily be reshelved in the wrong order because the chain tells you where it goes, so you can tell which is which based solely on its location.

    – Darrel Hoffman
    6 hours ago





    Also noteworthy is that since they're chained to the shelf, they cannot easily be reshelved in the wrong order because the chain tells you where it goes, so you can tell which is which based solely on its location.

    – Darrel Hoffman
    6 hours ago











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    Originally the shelf marks and titling of a book was written on its fore-edge, the paper part of the book, not on the back (the spine) the way they are today.



    The GOT library is modelled after the chained library of Hereford Cathedral. In that library the books have only shelf marks and they are written on the fore-edge, so the fore-edge is the part of the book facing outwards.



    enter image description here



    Image shared by Hereford Cathedral's official Twitter account to mark
    Book Week 2018




    The chaining of books was the most widespread and effective security system in European libraries from the Middle Ages to the 18th century, and Hereford Cathedral’s 17th-century Chained Library is the largest to survive with all its chains, rods and locks intact.



    A chain is attached at one end to the front cover of each book; the other end is slotted on to a rod running along the bottom of each shelf. The system allows a book to be taken from the shelf and read at the desk, but not to be removed from the bookcase.



    The books are shelved with their foredges, rather than their spines, facing the reader (the wrong way round to us); this allows the book to be lifted down and opened without needing to be turned around – thus avoiding tangling the chain.




    Quote from the official Hereford Cathedral's page on the Chained Library






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      Originally the shelf marks and titling of a book was written on its fore-edge, the paper part of the book, not on the back (the spine) the way they are today.



      The GOT library is modelled after the chained library of Hereford Cathedral. In that library the books have only shelf marks and they are written on the fore-edge, so the fore-edge is the part of the book facing outwards.



      enter image description here



      Image shared by Hereford Cathedral's official Twitter account to mark
      Book Week 2018




      The chaining of books was the most widespread and effective security system in European libraries from the Middle Ages to the 18th century, and Hereford Cathedral’s 17th-century Chained Library is the largest to survive with all its chains, rods and locks intact.



      A chain is attached at one end to the front cover of each book; the other end is slotted on to a rod running along the bottom of each shelf. The system allows a book to be taken from the shelf and read at the desk, but not to be removed from the bookcase.



      The books are shelved with their foredges, rather than their spines, facing the reader (the wrong way round to us); this allows the book to be lifted down and opened without needing to be turned around – thus avoiding tangling the chain.




      Quote from the official Hereford Cathedral's page on the Chained Library






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        Originally the shelf marks and titling of a book was written on its fore-edge, the paper part of the book, not on the back (the spine) the way they are today.



        The GOT library is modelled after the chained library of Hereford Cathedral. In that library the books have only shelf marks and they are written on the fore-edge, so the fore-edge is the part of the book facing outwards.



        enter image description here



        Image shared by Hereford Cathedral's official Twitter account to mark
        Book Week 2018




        The chaining of books was the most widespread and effective security system in European libraries from the Middle Ages to the 18th century, and Hereford Cathedral’s 17th-century Chained Library is the largest to survive with all its chains, rods and locks intact.



        A chain is attached at one end to the front cover of each book; the other end is slotted on to a rod running along the bottom of each shelf. The system allows a book to be taken from the shelf and read at the desk, but not to be removed from the bookcase.



        The books are shelved with their foredges, rather than their spines, facing the reader (the wrong way round to us); this allows the book to be lifted down and opened without needing to be turned around – thus avoiding tangling the chain.




        Quote from the official Hereford Cathedral's page on the Chained Library






        share|improve this answer















        Originally the shelf marks and titling of a book was written on its fore-edge, the paper part of the book, not on the back (the spine) the way they are today.



        The GOT library is modelled after the chained library of Hereford Cathedral. In that library the books have only shelf marks and they are written on the fore-edge, so the fore-edge is the part of the book facing outwards.



        enter image description here



        Image shared by Hereford Cathedral's official Twitter account to mark
        Book Week 2018




        The chaining of books was the most widespread and effective security system in European libraries from the Middle Ages to the 18th century, and Hereford Cathedral’s 17th-century Chained Library is the largest to survive with all its chains, rods and locks intact.



        A chain is attached at one end to the front cover of each book; the other end is slotted on to a rod running along the bottom of each shelf. The system allows a book to be taken from the shelf and read at the desk, but not to be removed from the bookcase.



        The books are shelved with their foredges, rather than their spines, facing the reader (the wrong way round to us); this allows the book to be lifted down and opened without needing to be turned around – thus avoiding tangling the chain.




        Quote from the official Hereford Cathedral's page on the Chained Library







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