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The sentence

Je me suis trompé dans mon calcul.

can be translated as

I've made a mistake in my calculation.

However, I don't understand the purpose of "me" in that sentence; for example,

je -> I

suit trompe -> have made

dans -> in

mon calcul -> my calculation

so if we didn't put "me" there, would the meaning change ?

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The sentence

Je me suis trompé dans mon calcul.

can be translated as

I've made a mistake in my calculation.

However, I don't understand the purpose of "me" in that sentence; for example,

je -> I

suit trompe -> have made

dans -> in

mon calcul -> my calculation

so if we didn't put "me" there, would the meaning change ?

grammaire sens

share|improve this question

edited 4 hours ago

onurcanbektas

asked 5 hours ago

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add a comment | 

The sentence

Je me suis trompé dans mon calcul.

can be translated as

I've made a mistake in my calculation.

However, I don't understand the purpose of "me" in that sentence; for example,

je -> I

suit trompe -> have made

dans -> in

mon calcul -> my calculation

so if we didn't put "me" there, would the meaning change ?

grammaire sens

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You confusion is due to the fact the most idiomatic ways to express it differs between French and English. However there are alternative forms with a closer structure in both cases.

I've made a mistake in my calculation.

word by word translates to:

J'ai fait une erreur dans mon calcul.

while

Je me suis trompé dans mon calcul.

literally translates to:

I mislead myself in my computation.

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This particular verb in French that means "to make an error", "to err", is a pronominal verb; it's just like that; you can use other verbs, but they are not heard so often and they are verbal locutions instead of simple one word terms: "commettre une erreur", "faire une erreur". In a pronominal verb, just as in English, you have to use the pronoun all the time; there is no way to omit it. This pronoun, moreover, has nothing to do with the possessive adjective "mon"; that word is in the noun group not the verb group: you can replace it by all of these words in turn and say something a little different each time without changing the verb;

ce, le, un, leur, ses, mes, tous ces, certains, etc. ("calcul" or "calculs" according to gender)

The conjugation is as follows ;

je me suis trompé

tu t'es trompé

il s'est trompé

nous nous sommes trompés

vous vous êtes trompés

ils se sont trompés

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You confusion is due to the fact the most idiomatic ways to express it differs between French and English. However there are alternative forms with a closer structure in both cases.

I've made a mistake in my calculation.

word by word translates to:

J'ai fait une erreur dans mon calcul.

while

Je me suis trompé dans mon calcul.

literally translates to:

I mislead myself in my computation.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

jlliagrejlliagre

64.7k244102

add a comment | 

1

You confusion is due to the fact the most idiomatic ways to express it differs between French and English. However there are alternative forms with a closer structure in both cases.

I've made a mistake in my calculation.

word by word translates to:

J'ai fait une erreur dans mon calcul.

while

Je me suis trompé dans mon calcul.

literally translates to:

I mislead myself in my computation.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

jlliagrejlliagre

64.7k244102

add a comment | 

You confusion is due to the fact the most idiomatic ways to express it differs between French and English. However there are alternative forms with a closer structure in both cases.

I've made a mistake in my calculation.

word by word translates to:

J'ai fait une erreur dans mon calcul.

while

Je me suis trompé dans mon calcul.

literally translates to:

I mislead myself in my computation.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

jlliagrejlliagre

64.7k244102

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

jlliagrejlliagre

64.7k244102

answered 4 hours ago

jlliagrejlliagre

64.7k244102

answered 4 hours ago

jlliagrejlliagre

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This particular verb in French that means "to make an error", "to err", is a pronominal verb; it's just like that; you can use other verbs, but they are not heard so often and they are verbal locutions instead of simple one word terms: "commettre une erreur", "faire une erreur". In a pronominal verb, just as in English, you have to use the pronoun all the time; there is no way to omit it. This pronoun, moreover, has nothing to do with the possessive adjective "mon"; that word is in the noun group not the verb group: you can replace it by all of these words in turn and say something a little different each time without changing the verb;

ce, le, un, leur, ses, mes, tous ces, certains, etc. ("calcul" or "calculs" according to gender)

The conjugation is as follows ;

je me suis trompé

tu t'es trompé

il s'est trompé

nous nous sommes trompés

vous vous êtes trompés

ils se sont trompés

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 4 hours ago

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1

This particular verb in French that means "to make an error", "to err", is a pronominal verb; it's just like that; you can use other verbs, but they are not heard so often and they are verbal locutions instead of simple one word terms: "commettre une erreur", "faire une erreur". In a pronominal verb, just as in English, you have to use the pronoun all the time; there is no way to omit it. This pronoun, moreover, has nothing to do with the possessive adjective "mon"; that word is in the noun group not the verb group: you can replace it by all of these words in turn and say something a little different each time without changing the verb;

ce, le, un, leur, ses, mes, tous ces, certains, etc. ("calcul" or "calculs" according to gender)

The conjugation is as follows ;

je me suis trompé

tu t'es trompé

il s'est trompé

nous nous sommes trompés

vous vous êtes trompés

ils se sont trompés

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

8,678421

add a comment | 

This particular verb in French that means "to make an error", "to err", is a pronominal verb; it's just like that; you can use other verbs, but they are not heard so often and they are verbal locutions instead of simple one word terms: "commettre une erreur", "faire une erreur". In a pronominal verb, just as in English, you have to use the pronoun all the time; there is no way to omit it. This pronoun, moreover, has nothing to do with the possessive adjective "mon"; that word is in the noun group not the verb group: you can replace it by all of these words in turn and say something a little different each time without changing the verb;

ce, le, un, leur, ses, mes, tous ces, certains, etc. ("calcul" or "calculs" according to gender)

The conjugation is as follows ;

je me suis trompé

tu t'es trompé

il s'est trompé

nous nous sommes trompés

vous vous êtes trompés

ils se sont trompés

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

8,678421

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

8,678421

answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

8,678421

answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

8,678421