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Hello! Could someone please give me an explanation about why in the above lick they use G flat (yellow square) instead of G and an E (red circle) instead of E flat, as the Gm dictates?



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Hello! Could someone please give me an explanation about why in the above lick they use G flat (yellow square) instead of G and an E (red circle) instead of E flat, as the Gm dictates?



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Hello! Could someone please give me an explanation about why in the above lick they use G flat (yellow square) instead of G and an E (red circle) instead of E flat, as the Gm dictates?



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You could ask the same about the A note. All three are just passing notes, passing from one 'good' note to another 'good' note. I call them stepping stone notes. They come on unstressed parts of the bar. The stressed points usually being beats 1 and 3. Here the A is & of 1, Gb & of 3 and E & of 4, all weak points where almost any note will not sound too bad. Gb>F>E is a chromatic run, possibly ending on a chord tone on the important 1 in the next bar, Eb perhaps, part of Cm chord? All this presumes it's in key C, with the C key sig - no # or b.



The 'Gm7' dictates nothing. Except that's the chord appropriate in that bar. There's no 'rules' (as we keep saying!); there's only 'theory'. Often in a bar of Gm7 there will be some chord tones - G, Bb, D, F, but that certainly does not preclude use of any of the remaining eight notes, whatever key the piece happens to be in. That concept you (and so many others) adhere to is wrong!






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  • Good answer. There are many interpretations as to what chord symbols mean. In the foreword of Chick Corea's "Paint the World" sheet music book he says something like, he will not add a note in the chord symbol, if it's already stated in the melody. For example if the melody has a B note, a chord symbol "Am7" is enough, and he won't write "Am9" there. So it's up to the reader's subjective judgement to understand if a written melody note is an essential part of the song's harmony idea, or not :) Chord symbols are not a theory-hygienic harmony specification. They're more like accompaniment hints.

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In general, not every note needs to be considered part of the harmony. You can have notes outside of a chord or key be utilized. Both of these notes are examples of non harmonic tones.



The G&flat; is a chromatic passing tone. It is sandwiched between the G and F which are both chord tones. The E is also most likely another non harmonic tone, what it is exactly depends on what comes next. It could be another chromatic passing tone if the next note is an E&flat;, it could just as easily be an anticipation of what is next especially if you are in the key of A minor or C major which the lack of accidentals in the key signature.






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    Although for this particular phrase the easiest explanation is "they're simply passing notes" it's worth adding that these particular passing notes are a bit like a magic ingredient in the sound of jazz as they are part of jazz minor scale, almost a classic sound in jazz.



    So if you start digging more and analyzing jazz recordings you will come across phrases where the sixth and major seventh over minor chords function as a static tension or a harmonic "color" that doesn't really get resolved.






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      You could ask the same about the A note. All three are just passing notes, passing from one 'good' note to another 'good' note. I call them stepping stone notes. They come on unstressed parts of the bar. The stressed points usually being beats 1 and 3. Here the A is & of 1, Gb & of 3 and E & of 4, all weak points where almost any note will not sound too bad. Gb>F>E is a chromatic run, possibly ending on a chord tone on the important 1 in the next bar, Eb perhaps, part of Cm chord? All this presumes it's in key C, with the C key sig - no # or b.



      The 'Gm7' dictates nothing. Except that's the chord appropriate in that bar. There's no 'rules' (as we keep saying!); there's only 'theory'. Often in a bar of Gm7 there will be some chord tones - G, Bb, D, F, but that certainly does not preclude use of any of the remaining eight notes, whatever key the piece happens to be in. That concept you (and so many others) adhere to is wrong!






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      • Good answer. There are many interpretations as to what chord symbols mean. In the foreword of Chick Corea's "Paint the World" sheet music book he says something like, he will not add a note in the chord symbol, if it's already stated in the melody. For example if the melody has a B note, a chord symbol "Am7" is enough, and he won't write "Am9" there. So it's up to the reader's subjective judgement to understand if a written melody note is an essential part of the song's harmony idea, or not :) Chord symbols are not a theory-hygienic harmony specification. They're more like accompaniment hints.

        – piiperi
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      • @piiperi - Mark Levine's Jazz Theory book is full of the opposite!

        – Tim
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      You could ask the same about the A note. All three are just passing notes, passing from one 'good' note to another 'good' note. I call them stepping stone notes. They come on unstressed parts of the bar. The stressed points usually being beats 1 and 3. Here the A is & of 1, Gb & of 3 and E & of 4, all weak points where almost any note will not sound too bad. Gb>F>E is a chromatic run, possibly ending on a chord tone on the important 1 in the next bar, Eb perhaps, part of Cm chord? All this presumes it's in key C, with the C key sig - no # or b.



      The 'Gm7' dictates nothing. Except that's the chord appropriate in that bar. There's no 'rules' (as we keep saying!); there's only 'theory'. Often in a bar of Gm7 there will be some chord tones - G, Bb, D, F, but that certainly does not preclude use of any of the remaining eight notes, whatever key the piece happens to be in. That concept you (and so many others) adhere to is wrong!






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      • Good answer. There are many interpretations as to what chord symbols mean. In the foreword of Chick Corea's "Paint the World" sheet music book he says something like, he will not add a note in the chord symbol, if it's already stated in the melody. For example if the melody has a B note, a chord symbol "Am7" is enough, and he won't write "Am9" there. So it's up to the reader's subjective judgement to understand if a written melody note is an essential part of the song's harmony idea, or not :) Chord symbols are not a theory-hygienic harmony specification. They're more like accompaniment hints.

        – piiperi
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      • @piiperi - Mark Levine's Jazz Theory book is full of the opposite!

        – Tim
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      You could ask the same about the A note. All three are just passing notes, passing from one 'good' note to another 'good' note. I call them stepping stone notes. They come on unstressed parts of the bar. The stressed points usually being beats 1 and 3. Here the A is & of 1, Gb & of 3 and E & of 4, all weak points where almost any note will not sound too bad. Gb>F>E is a chromatic run, possibly ending on a chord tone on the important 1 in the next bar, Eb perhaps, part of Cm chord? All this presumes it's in key C, with the C key sig - no # or b.



      The 'Gm7' dictates nothing. Except that's the chord appropriate in that bar. There's no 'rules' (as we keep saying!); there's only 'theory'. Often in a bar of Gm7 there will be some chord tones - G, Bb, D, F, but that certainly does not preclude use of any of the remaining eight notes, whatever key the piece happens to be in. That concept you (and so many others) adhere to is wrong!






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      You could ask the same about the A note. All three are just passing notes, passing from one 'good' note to another 'good' note. I call them stepping stone notes. They come on unstressed parts of the bar. The stressed points usually being beats 1 and 3. Here the A is & of 1, Gb & of 3 and E & of 4, all weak points where almost any note will not sound too bad. Gb>F>E is a chromatic run, possibly ending on a chord tone on the important 1 in the next bar, Eb perhaps, part of Cm chord? All this presumes it's in key C, with the C key sig - no # or b.



      The 'Gm7' dictates nothing. Except that's the chord appropriate in that bar. There's no 'rules' (as we keep saying!); there's only 'theory'. Often in a bar of Gm7 there will be some chord tones - G, Bb, D, F, but that certainly does not preclude use of any of the remaining eight notes, whatever key the piece happens to be in. That concept you (and so many others) adhere to is wrong!







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      • Good answer. There are many interpretations as to what chord symbols mean. In the foreword of Chick Corea's "Paint the World" sheet music book he says something like, he will not add a note in the chord symbol, if it's already stated in the melody. For example if the melody has a B note, a chord symbol "Am7" is enough, and he won't write "Am9" there. So it's up to the reader's subjective judgement to understand if a written melody note is an essential part of the song's harmony idea, or not :) Chord symbols are not a theory-hygienic harmony specification. They're more like accompaniment hints.

        – piiperi
        1 hour ago













      • @piiperi - Mark Levine's Jazz Theory book is full of the opposite!

        – Tim
        1 hour ago



















      • Good answer. There are many interpretations as to what chord symbols mean. In the foreword of Chick Corea's "Paint the World" sheet music book he says something like, he will not add a note in the chord symbol, if it's already stated in the melody. For example if the melody has a B note, a chord symbol "Am7" is enough, and he won't write "Am9" there. So it's up to the reader's subjective judgement to understand if a written melody note is an essential part of the song's harmony idea, or not :) Chord symbols are not a theory-hygienic harmony specification. They're more like accompaniment hints.

        – piiperi
        1 hour ago













      • @piiperi - Mark Levine's Jazz Theory book is full of the opposite!

        – Tim
        1 hour ago

















      Good answer. There are many interpretations as to what chord symbols mean. In the foreword of Chick Corea's "Paint the World" sheet music book he says something like, he will not add a note in the chord symbol, if it's already stated in the melody. For example if the melody has a B note, a chord symbol "Am7" is enough, and he won't write "Am9" there. So it's up to the reader's subjective judgement to understand if a written melody note is an essential part of the song's harmony idea, or not :) Chord symbols are not a theory-hygienic harmony specification. They're more like accompaniment hints.

      – piiperi
      1 hour ago







      Good answer. There are many interpretations as to what chord symbols mean. In the foreword of Chick Corea's "Paint the World" sheet music book he says something like, he will not add a note in the chord symbol, if it's already stated in the melody. For example if the melody has a B note, a chord symbol "Am7" is enough, and he won't write "Am9" there. So it's up to the reader's subjective judgement to understand if a written melody note is an essential part of the song's harmony idea, or not :) Chord symbols are not a theory-hygienic harmony specification. They're more like accompaniment hints.

      – piiperi
      1 hour ago















      @piiperi - Mark Levine's Jazz Theory book is full of the opposite!

      – Tim
      1 hour ago





      @piiperi - Mark Levine's Jazz Theory book is full of the opposite!

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      In general, not every note needs to be considered part of the harmony. You can have notes outside of a chord or key be utilized. Both of these notes are examples of non harmonic tones.



      The G&flat; is a chromatic passing tone. It is sandwiched between the G and F which are both chord tones. The E is also most likely another non harmonic tone, what it is exactly depends on what comes next. It could be another chromatic passing tone if the next note is an E&flat;, it could just as easily be an anticipation of what is next especially if you are in the key of A minor or C major which the lack of accidentals in the key signature.






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        In general, not every note needs to be considered part of the harmony. You can have notes outside of a chord or key be utilized. Both of these notes are examples of non harmonic tones.



        The G&flat; is a chromatic passing tone. It is sandwiched between the G and F which are both chord tones. The E is also most likely another non harmonic tone, what it is exactly depends on what comes next. It could be another chromatic passing tone if the next note is an E&flat;, it could just as easily be an anticipation of what is next especially if you are in the key of A minor or C major which the lack of accidentals in the key signature.






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          In general, not every note needs to be considered part of the harmony. You can have notes outside of a chord or key be utilized. Both of these notes are examples of non harmonic tones.



          The G&flat; is a chromatic passing tone. It is sandwiched between the G and F which are both chord tones. The E is also most likely another non harmonic tone, what it is exactly depends on what comes next. It could be another chromatic passing tone if the next note is an E&flat;, it could just as easily be an anticipation of what is next especially if you are in the key of A minor or C major which the lack of accidentals in the key signature.






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          In general, not every note needs to be considered part of the harmony. You can have notes outside of a chord or key be utilized. Both of these notes are examples of non harmonic tones.



          The G&flat; is a chromatic passing tone. It is sandwiched between the G and F which are both chord tones. The E is also most likely another non harmonic tone, what it is exactly depends on what comes next. It could be another chromatic passing tone if the next note is an E&flat;, it could just as easily be an anticipation of what is next especially if you are in the key of A minor or C major which the lack of accidentals in the key signature.







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              Although for this particular phrase the easiest explanation is "they're simply passing notes" it's worth adding that these particular passing notes are a bit like a magic ingredient in the sound of jazz as they are part of jazz minor scale, almost a classic sound in jazz.



              So if you start digging more and analyzing jazz recordings you will come across phrases where the sixth and major seventh over minor chords function as a static tension or a harmonic "color" that doesn't really get resolved.






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                Although for this particular phrase the easiest explanation is "they're simply passing notes" it's worth adding that these particular passing notes are a bit like a magic ingredient in the sound of jazz as they are part of jazz minor scale, almost a classic sound in jazz.



                So if you start digging more and analyzing jazz recordings you will come across phrases where the sixth and major seventh over minor chords function as a static tension or a harmonic "color" that doesn't really get resolved.






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                  Although for this particular phrase the easiest explanation is "they're simply passing notes" it's worth adding that these particular passing notes are a bit like a magic ingredient in the sound of jazz as they are part of jazz minor scale, almost a classic sound in jazz.



                  So if you start digging more and analyzing jazz recordings you will come across phrases where the sixth and major seventh over minor chords function as a static tension or a harmonic "color" that doesn't really get resolved.






                  share|improve this answer













                  Although for this particular phrase the easiest explanation is "they're simply passing notes" it's worth adding that these particular passing notes are a bit like a magic ingredient in the sound of jazz as they are part of jazz minor scale, almost a classic sound in jazz.



                  So if you start digging more and analyzing jazz recordings you will come across phrases where the sixth and major seventh over minor chords function as a static tension or a harmonic "color" that doesn't really get resolved.







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